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Postby Haruo » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:03 am

Well, I don't see an apology in what Keith quoted, but I also see a great deal of exagerration of what Storey said in what the Daily Caller rephrased it as. It would be nice if people would be nice. I agree that the comment was insensitive and the theology badly flawed.
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Postby Sandy » Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:50 pm

The Daily Caller. :lol: That's never a factual source.

Well, how much different is this than Pat Robertson's declaration of having prayed a hurricanes away from Virginia Beach, because his empire built on the backs of little blue haired ladies is there. So the one that got some attention wound up hitting the mid-atlantic and New England, and did about $900 million in damage, including to George H.W. Bush's home at Kennebunkport, Maine. Oops. Or John Hagee's claim that Katrina was a punishment from God against New Orleans and its "Southern Decadence" weekend at Labor Day. Of course, the brunt of the storm hit the Mississippi Gulf Coast, and ravaged that God fearin' state all the way up to Meridian. Maybe it was the casinos there.

Yes, the comment, the real one, not the exaggeration in the Daily Caller, was insensitive. The kind of attention Texas should be getting now isn't second guessing their voting motives, and the Daily Caller should have exercised something it really doesn't have, discernment, good judgement and common sense, by deciding not to put this out there instead of their calloused attempt to capitalize on "the bad, bad left." And the whole idea of natural disaster judgements for the collective sin of a particular place is contrary to the covenant God makes with his people through Christ, unless you believe in collective Redemption.
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Postby Haruo » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:42 am

The professor apparently got fired over his remark. I think that's overreaction on the University's part, though I think some form of censure would have been appropriate. And if the folks who fired him are also ones who supported Trump's "end to political correctness" stuff, then it's doubly ironic.
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Natural disasters are not closely driven by election results or sexuality.
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Postby Jim » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:28 pm

The supreme irony lies in the fact that 95% or so of academia considers freedom of speech as a Constitutional right until someone—anyone—says something the institution doesn't like and is either fired, excoriated or cancels a speech by a conservative (especially if either the loony-tunes faculty or the dumb-as-a-gourd students insist). The professor had a right to say what he did as long as he was speaking for himself and not the institution. It's gotten so bad that people can't even make fools of themselves anymore.
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Re: Harvey...

Postby Sandy » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:34 pm

Specifically, here's the tweet from Professor Storey:
"I dont believe in instant karma but this kinda feels like it for Texas. Hopefully this will help them realize the GOP doesnt care about them."

Then a follow-up:
"Good people need to do more to stop the evil their state pushes." He continued: "I'm only blaming those who support the GOP there."

Not exactly what the conservative propaganda websites claim that he said, but they're not interested in truth, they're just interested in using things like this to push their agenda. And his statement would probably not have gone anywhere had it not been for the holy horror put up by conservatives in this case, based on false and misleading statements made by conservative media. The University of Tampa is a private university, about 8,000 students enrolled in mostly business-related majors and minors. The conservative media sites marshalled their supporters to inundate the University with calls, posing as parents, threatening to withdraw students or not send them, demanding he be fired. Conservatives consider freedom of speech as a constitutional right until someone--anyone--says something they don't like about Donald Trump, then they excoriate the professor and demand he be fired.

Professor Storey was apparently pretty gracious with the university. He wasn't fired, he was asked for his resignation in the face of a libelous assault on his character by some loony-tunes, dumb-as-gourd Trump supporters, and he agreed. No details are offered of that particular agreement, but I'm guessing there was a check attached to it with an amount similar to what they'd have to pay both he and his attorney if he sued. Perhaps he's considering a very justifiable libel suit against the conservative websites that attacked him falsely and distorted his words. It would probably be easy to guess that one or two of the university's prominent, large donors got upset and put pressure on the school to terminate him, since he was only adjunct, but even though that's an unknown, this isn't an attack on free speech by "academia," code word for "the left." This was a right wing conspiracy, through and through.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/ ... te/2335504
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