Baptists Today and the souls of pickles...

[William Thornton]

[Dave Roberts]

I'm afraid that Rogers is just a victim of what he and others so often practiced in their use of selected and out of context quotes to prove that professors and others were not faithful to the scriptures (as they understood them). Just reference the attacks on Glenn Hinson, Randall Lolley, Dale Moody, and Henley Barnette that were published by Robert Tenery or "General" Pinkney. Then look back at the contexts to see what was intended. Also, there is a difference, William, between behavior and belief. You referenced how people "behaved." If that were the standard, then what about "half-truths in service of the greater good?"

[William Thornton]

[William Thornton]

In principle, mods agree with the pickle quote, although they would never admit it. They would only differ with the application of it.

[Big Daddy Weaver]

[Dave Roberts]

[Tim Bonney]

William, how do you avoid this coming down to its most absurd conclusion, that doctrine is decided by whomever has the money, gives the money, and controls the money?

Since Baptists have no official church law or doctrine the answer is that professors teach doctrines based on what the people who give the money believe? This seems contradictory to what conservative Christians always tell me they believe, "we should teach what the Bible says no matter what people say." Apparently that doesn't carry over to "no matter what people give."

I don't really think this is what you mean but it appears to me that the unavoidable conclusion of what you are saying is the money determines doctrine.

What I think you may mean is that Southern Baptists should get to determine what doctrines are taught in SBC seminaries. I can only see one way to do that with integrity, and that would be for the SBC to adopt official doctrinal guidelines that would be binding on pastors and churches, and church members as well as seminary professors.

But what you are appearing to say is the Southern Baptist can believe whatever they want, SBC pastors can believe and teach whatever they want, but if people are giving money then the money trumps all.

[Haruo]

Well, in a Capitalist Christian country like our Land of Hope and Glory, market forces should be allowed to freely shape and direct doctrine, shouldn't they?

Cajun spice pickles have soul.

[Tim Bonney]

[Sandy]

[Tim Bonney]

[Haruo]

[Tom Parker]

[Tim Bonney]

[Tim Bonney]

[Sandy]

[Sandy]

[Tim Bonney]

[Sandy]

[Tim Bonney]

[Tom Parker]

Tim: Sandy sure goes out of his way to support the FUNDAMENTLIST approach of the SBC. Only one way is allowed on whatever the issue is. I do not understand what the purpose of thinking is under this approach.

[TrudyU]

[William Thornton]

[Dave Roberts]

[KeithE]