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Gene Scarborough wrote:
All they show is ignorance and loudness in the place of rambling with .25-cent words.
Dave Roberts wrote:Gene Scarborough wrote:
All they show is ignorance and loudness in the place of rambling with .25-cent words.
How big is a 1/4 of cent word? I think I like those
David Flick wrote:Speaking of fractions of a penny, I can remember when Oklahoma had mill coins (1/10th of a penny). For a while back in the '70s, I collected mill coins. In Oklahoma during the '40s & '50s, we had 2 denominations (i.e. 1 mill coins & 5 mill coins). Compared to the physical size of a penny, the mill coins were larger. These coins were of inexpensive material such as tin, aluminum, plastic or paper. Rising inflation depreciated the value of these tokens in relation to the value of their constituent materials; this depreciation led to their eventual abandonment. Virtually none were made after the 1960s. (Source...)
In the late '40s & early 50s, I and my cousin saved those 1 mill coins and spent them at Trent's 5 & 10 Store on Main Street in Hammon. Fifty of those 1-mill coins would buy a nickel box of explosive caps for our cap guns. Ten of the 5-mill coins would buy the same. We considered ourselves to be rich if we could accumulate 500 of the 1-mill coins. Of course 500 1-mill coins is only 50 cents. In 1950 when I was 9 years old, 50 cents was really big money. Today, a fraction of a cent is nothing. I guess you could say that one of Scarborough's 1/4th of a cent words (.25 cent words) is the equivalent to about 4 mills...
William Thornton wrote:David Flick wrote:Speaking of fractions of a penny, I can remember when Oklahoma had mill coins (1/10th of a penny). For a while back in the '70s, I collected mill coins. In Oklahoma during the '40s & '50s, we had 2 denominations (i.e. 1 mill coins & 5 mill coins). Compared to the physical size of a penny, the mill coins were larger. These coins were of inexpensive material such as tin, aluminum, plastic or paper. Rising inflation depreciated the value of these tokens in relation to the value of their constituent materials; this depreciation led to their eventual abandonment. Virtually none were made after the 1960s. (Source...)
In the late '40s & early 50s, I and my cousin saved those 1 mill coins and spent them at Trent's 5 & 10 Store on Main Street in Hammon. Fifty of those 1-mill coins would buy a nickel box of explosive caps for our cap guns. Ten of the 5-mill coins would buy the same. We considered ourselves to be rich if we could accumulate 500 of the 1-mill coins. Of course 500 1-mill coins is only 50 cents. In 1950 when I was 9 years old, 50 cents was really big money. Today, a fraction of a cent is nothing. I guess you could say that one of Scarborough's 1/4th of a cent words (.25 cent words) is the equivalent to about 4 mills...
That's really interesting, David. I had no idea any state had their own coinage.
William Thornton wrote:I have some coinage from the SC state prison. They had their own 'monetary' system.
...and Lottie Moon travelled through SC and Crawford Toy taught at the seminary that was once located in SC.
How's that for relevance?
The significance of this book for Southern Baptists is that the real Lottie Moon story is better than the myth. After the Civil War, at a time when women in American society were advocating women’s political rights, Moon was a pioneer in her advocacy for women’s rights within the religious culture of the Southern Baptist Convention. Sullivan skillfully weaves the details of Lottie Moon’s life, the struggles of SBC Foreign Mission Board, the emergence of the Woman’s Missionary Union, and the politics of the Southern Baptist Convention into a single compelling story. At the center of it all was Lottie Moon, a force to be reckoned with in the late 1800s, and after her death a legend to be exploited for fundraising.
Moon’s defiance of the SBC Foreign Mission Board when she moved alone from the established mission compound in Tengchow to pioneer work as a single woman in Pingtu is an historical fact that cannot be ignored or rehabilitated to fit Victorian or contemporary notions of a woman’s “proper place.” Had the Foreign Mission Board been prescient enough to anticipate Moon’s entrepreneurial approach to mission work, the FMB would never have appointed her. For the same reasons today, Lottie Moon would not be eligible for appointment by the current International Mission Board.
Gene Scarborough wrote:David---
Can I get a "mil-spur" for starting the .25-cent word thing????Gene, you wouldn't want a cheap spur. What you need to do is work hard and come up with a quotable comment that is worth something valuable. The Golden Spur is a valuable award, i.e. something you can take to the bank.
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Inflation now makes a regular penny worth about the same as you faux-pennies of Oklahoma!!!! Who would ever think that $20 of fuel would just pay for the trip to the pump!!!!!!I can remember the day when I could fill my car with fuel for less than $5.00. Back in the '65-'67, I was pastor of the Indian Baptist Mission in Seiling, Oklahoma. It was student-pastorate. I was attending Oklahoma Baptist University in Shawnee. Effie and I were living in Prague where she was teaching Home Economics. Each weekend we would make a 360 mile round-trip from Prague to Seiling. In those days I drove a 1966 Falcon (in this photo). The SIBMission facility was a converted 2-story house. Anyway along about that time fuel was about 30 cents a gallon. I think the Falcon had a 16-gallon tank. At 30 cents a gallon, I could fill the thing for $4.80. We had a lot of gas wars in Oklahoma during the '60s. I can vividly recall several times getting gas for 19 cents a gallon, which would mean that I could fill it up from empty for a mere $3.04. Amazing when you get to thinking about it. We'll never see those days again...
Gene Scarborough wrote:Here is the latest in information on the Lottie Moon story from LSU:
http://www.abpnews.com/content/view/6653/53/
It bespeaks a problem with a courageous woman advocating for a proper place in missionary legacy. According to the author, the starvation story served to raise money, but had little to do with the reality of the day.
We seem to use "history" to promote money raising---and the real story deals with self-centered male leaders balancing the books with little regard for spiritual / physical needs of a person like Lottie Moon.
Toni Lynn Campbell Bercha
I didn't want to post this on your comment about Lottie Moon but do y'all know much about her sister Ginny? I was a docent at Elmwood Cemetery in Memphis where Virginia Moon is buried. She was one of my favorite figures to tell tourists about because it was so fun to juxtapose the two sisters. Ginny was a "Madame" and a confederate spy. She and her girls would hide guns, money, documents and whatever else was necessary in the stays of their dresses to move them across enemy lines. She was imprisoned several times and also was engaged many, many times to whichever officer could get her out of jail for being a spy. She was also a Hollywood actress late in her life. I love how that family produced two such different women who were both highly dedicated to their "causes". Of course that has nothing to do with your story.
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