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The all new SBC Conservative Resurgence

Postby William Thornton » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:49 pm

My mod friends may now say, “Told ya so.”

I’m not up for this one.
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Re: The all new SBC Conservative Resurgence

Postby Haruo » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:29 pm

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Re: The all new SBC Conservative Resurgence

Postby Tim Bonney » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:34 am

William Thornton wrote:My mod friends may now say, “Told ya so.”

I’m not up for this one.


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Re: The all new SBC Conservative Resurgence

Postby William Thornton » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:01 am

Things have progressed a bit but here is my article with links:

https://sbcvoices.com/i-dont-think-ill- ... d-funding/

Essentially, it’s the same old thing - a more right wing group. It’s tough to claim, though, that any of the six SBC seminaries are liberal. You will recognize a lot of the same stuff as in 1979.

There’s a racial element in this. Has to do with everything said to be included with “woke” stuff. My prediction is that the group will fail and that it’s more aBout secular politics.

Eerie similarities to the CR but no chance of the new group winning elections for years on end. Inept leadership, among other things.

The new group may opt to create a separate funding mechanism but that is rank conjecture by me. Too early to see how well or,poorly they will do.
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Re: The all new SBC Conservative Resurgence

Postby Tim Bonney » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:35 pm

William Thornton wrote:Things have progressed a bit but here is my article with links:

https://sbcvoices.com/i-dont-think-ill- ... d-funding/

Essentially, it’s the same old thing - a more right wing group. It’s tough to claim, though, that any of the six SBC seminaries are liberal. You will recognize a lot of the same stuff as in 1979.

There’s a racial element in this. Has to do with everything said to be included with “woke” stuff. My prediction is that the group will fail and that it’s more aBout secular politics.

Eerie similarities to the CR but no chance of the new group winning elections for years on end. Inept leadership, among other things.

The new group may opt to create a separate funding mechanism but that is rank conjecture by me. Too early to see how well or,poorly they will do.


The only thing I saw new that didn't sound just like the old resurgence group was the opposition to social justice. I don't get that. Why would anyone we against justice?
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Re: The all new SBC Conservative Resurgence

Postby William Thornton » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:16 pm

In the SBC right now there’s a lot of implied content in the phrase “social justice.” The SBC has a considerable number of ethnic minority congregations, probably many more than the abc or cbf. Not sure about umc. One of the differences between ethnic minority congregations and ethnic majority ones is politics and political issues.
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Re: The all new SBC Conservative Resurgence

Postby Tim Bonney » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:24 pm

William Thornton wrote:In the SBC right now there’s a lot of implied content in the phrase “social justice.” The SBC has a considerable number of ethnic minority congregations, probably many more than the abc or cbf. Not sure about umc. One of the differences between ethnic minority congregations and ethnic majority ones is politics and political issues.


Social Principles both in the ABC/USA and the UMC are pretty important. While it does touch on politics, the focus is on advocacy for poor and needy people and racial minorities. The Methodists adopted our first "Social Creed" in 1908 which developed into a set of "Social Principles" that have been in the Methodist Church and the UMC ever since.

Reading what the far right wing SBC folks say about Social Justice you'd think it was some new fangled liberal agenda. Its not new and it isn't so much liberal as it is Christ Kingdom oriented.

Some of these same folks have no problem getting involved in politics when it amounts to campaigning for the president. Why balk at involvement to eliminate racism or reduce poverty?
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Alabama and Mississippi SBC

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:12 am

In Miss the SBC played a key role in bringing the Confederate emblem off the state flag, that and Miss State and Ole Miss 5 star recruits threatening to opt out. The real test of the SBC is not the new more Pressler like Group with Mohler's ridiculous thoughts on populism and Trump, the test is in Alabama will Rick Lance be as struck mute as the 8 white ministers to whom ML King sent the letter from the Bham Jail in this Senate contest between the By God Gun Man Auburn Coach Tuberville and incumbent Doug Jones.

If the Bama SBC sits this one out, then God have mercy on their souls and all the SBC Voices including Al Molher can't redeem them.
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