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SBC Executive Committe

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:06 pm
by Joseph Patrick
Why does the executive committee of the SBC seem so intransigent?

Re: SBC Executive Committe

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:57 am
by Dave Roberts
The simplest answer I can give is that they don't want to admit they mishandled the charges and helped hide the sudden moves of some promising ministers and others. Telling the truth might hurt donations.

Re: SBC Executive Committe

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:44 am
by William Thornton
It’s a lot more complicated than that. Total chaos going forward. Watching some new EC trustees reminds me that the SBC is a convention of small churches, often with small minded pastors. Disgusting.

Re: SBC Executive Committe

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:05 pm
by Dave Roberts
William Thornton wrote:It’s a lot more complicated than that. Total chaos going forward. Watching some new EC trustees reminds me that the SBC is a convention of small churches, often with small minded pastors. Disgusting.


I would love an explanation of the complications. I certainly don't disagree on the "small-minded" concerns.

Re: SBC Executive Committe

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:43 pm
by Haruo
Yes, William, a little fleshing out of your comments would be great. Not that I doubt the general validity of what you said.

Re: SBC Executive Committe

PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:14 am
by William Thornton
Haruo wrote:Yes, William, a little fleshing out of your comments would be great. Not that I doubt the general validity of what you said.


We SBCers like to tout our system of ordinary churches and the messengers they send to the annual meeting for mass meetings and voting. The system can be and often is manipulative, voters being carried along by bell cows and contrived proposals. Thus always and inherent to our polity. The rancor at the EC reflects that. The motion discussed was loaded with several provisions on which messengers were deliberately uninformed. Maybe it will matter when the work is done. Maybe not. We will see.

And, Haruo, be sure and check the admin forum.

Re: SBC Executive Committe

PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:36 am
by Dave Roberts
Part of the SBC polity problem is that within that system of smaller churches, often those churches have never been represented at an SBC meeting simply because the church budget does not have the finances to be represented at an SBC meeting. I grew up in an association that prior to 1979 had never had more than 3 or 4 of its churches ever sending messengers. They might send them to the local association, but they did not send then the the SBC or even to the state level. Suddenly the pressure to send messengers meant that people who had never been to a convention or understood anything about its polity were turning up to save the SBC without ever knowing any of the particulars, only that they believed the SBC needed new saviors, and they would come to save it. Now some have managed to step up to the EC, and they still have no idea how to lead at that level. The "small mindedness" of which you speak is exactly what sent some of us over the edge. Also, CBF has suffered from the fact that numbers of churches that thought like CBFers are still in the SBC not knowing even what the differences are, except as promoted by some very biased sources. Interesting these days to watch from a distance.