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Re: Schumer threatens justices

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:25 am
by Sandy
Rvaughn wrote:Otherwise, I believe what I believe, vote how I vote, contact my representatives, and generally save my complaining about and opposition to Trump for Christian friends who think he walks on water.


I'm finding, at least in my social media contacts, that the number of Christians who thinks he walks on water has waned somewhat. Whether that's due to any influence of mine or not, I don't know, though I usually spend a few minutes in the morning posting facts debunking memes that I see posted. But I figure, if they're going to post it and it shows up on my news feed, they must want me to read it, so I'll respond.

I'd love to know what has prompted the change of mind when I've seen someone go from Trump cheerleader to "not voting for Trump." I know in one case, a good friend of mine in my church, it was the pardon of former Illinois governor Rod Blagogevich. Strange that it would be something like that, after everything else, that pulled the plug.

Re: Schumer threatens justices

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:43 pm
by Haruo
His tweet of himself (actually a retweet) fiddling while <<imperial capital>> burns was intriguing. Of course, Christians who think Trump walks on water also probably believe Nero was the first Roman Emperor to be baptized...
...well, except for the ones who think he was the hero of the animated film "Where's Nero..."
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Re: Schumer threatens justices

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:05 pm
by Rvaughn
Sandy wrote:I know in one case, a good friend of mine in my church, it was the pardon of former Illinois governor Rod Blagogevich. Strange that it would be something like that, after everything else, that pulled the plug.
Yes, that does seem an odd point where a Trump supporter would drop his support. I wouldn't think most people even pay that much attention to presidential pardons. Pardons leave strange presidential legacies, but which probably most overlook unless they have some specific connection to it. Did your friend have a specific interest in Blagojevich?
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/obama-pardons
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/gwbush-pardons

Re: Schumer threatens justices

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:25 am
by Sandy
Sometimes there's a perfect storm. Blagogevich was an in-your-face politician when it came to his political opponents. Republicans hated him with a passion. His conviction opened the door to the election of a Republican governor in Illinois. He only lasted one term, but that was a big deal. So a lot of them are hopping mad over his commuted sentence. I don't think it was just this specific incident which caused this particular individual to drop support for Trump, though he hasn't really discussed it openly, though to discuss Trump's faults among supporters is taboo. It was the proverbial "straw" situation.

In Illinois right now, not only was the commuting of Blagogevich's sentence a bombshell, but a former Republican Congressman from Illinois 18th district, a vitriolic, in-your-face, aggressive gay basher and initiator and supporter of multiple anti-LGBTQ legislation by the name of Aaron Schock just came out of the closet. That's been speculated for a while, even before he had to resign from Congress amid corruption charges over the misuse of campaign funds (supposedly he used taxpayer dollars to build a "Downton Abbey" set in his congressional office). Republicans are smoldering over that.

Re: Schumer threatens justices

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:40 pm
by Haruo
That (Schock story) gave me and Mrs H a good laugh. But was it campaign funds or taxpayer dollars? Or, somehow, both?

Re: Schumer threatens justices

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:36 pm
by Sandy
Haruo wrote:That (Schock story) gave me and Mrs H a good laugh. But was it campaign funds or taxpayer dollars? Or, somehow, both?


It was illegal use of campaign funds, according to the Chicago Tribune. There was confusion over the Downton Abbey renovation because they do get an expense account for their office, but it was misuse of campaign funds that caused the problem.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/cri ... story.html