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Democrats all supported the wall?

Postby Haruo » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:02 pm

So, while he was in Iraq, apparently addressing an audience of service personnel, I heard the President say something to the effect that "The Democrats were all, every one of them, in favor of building the wall, they all agreed we needed a wall, until they found out I was in favor of it." What sort of Democratic support for what sort of wall, when and where, was he alluding to, or did he just make the whole notion up out of whole cloth on the spur of the moment?
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Re: Democrats all supported the wall?

Postby Rvaughn » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:22 pm

Not made up out of whole cloth, but not completely accurate either. Democrats did support and vote for the , the text of which can be found . The first link should tell you who voted for it, but right now it says the site is down for maintenance.
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Re: Democrats all supported the wall?

Postby Sandy » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:06 pm

The promise was "We are going to build a wall and Mexico will pay for it." Not happening. Mexico isn't paying for it. So the orange hair can't deliver on one of his most often cited promises. That's been the story of his presidency so far.

But on this issue, the trump lies go all the way back to the beginning, when he started talking about the need for border security. None of his perceptions are the reality. The Democrats not only favored increased border security, but they brought it about during the Obama administration. A combination of beefed -up border patrol, looking in the places where illegal workers were working, enforcing employment documentation policies, and deporting those who were here illegally. And there is a major difference between illegals coming across the border to work, and refugees coming across the border claiming political assylum. Trump's obvious prejudice against Latinos causes him to confuse the two separate issues.
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Postby Haruo » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:53 am

My senators were both Nays. But yes, it certainly seems forgetful of lots of Democrats to take the approach they currently are on the Wall. But then, Clinton and Obama are certainly Johnny-come-latelies to their current position. Haven't followed Schumer enough to know, but I'd be surprised if he differed from them much.
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Postby Haruo » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:56 am

It does seem clear that what I heard Trump tell the troops was an exaggeration, but not the absurdity I thought it was.
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Postby Haruo » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:56 pm

IIRC is abbreviated internet jargon for "If I Recall Correctly. FWIW ;-)
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Postby Rvaughn » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:56 pm

This National Geographic photographer (not a proponent) supplies pictures of some walls, fencing, and barriers that already existed in September 2017 on the U.S.-Mexico border.
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Re: Democrats all supported the wall?

Postby Sandy » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:20 pm

Trump is a pathological liar, among a long list of other things that are demonstrations of immoral character and complete lack of ethics. To attempt to compare him to President Obama, who ran a scandal-free administration with a level of honesty and integrity worthy of the United States of America is a clear example of bias against Obama, and a joke. The only other American president in the same category with a low life like Donald Trump is Richard Nixon and maybe Warren Harding.
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