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Sandy, I am not sure if there really is a geographic center of Free Will Baptists in Texas. I believe there are not more than 50 churches in the entire state. I am particularly familiar with two pockets that resulted from the work of Angus McAllister Stewart, who came to Texas from Georgia and settled in Panola County. His initial work was primarily in that area, and the pocket here is, I think, mostly Nacogdoches, Panola, and Rusk Counties -- probably about a dozen churches. Later he moved to Bryan and started several churches in that area. That pocket ranges, I think, from say Madisonville to Huntsville.Sandy wrote:Is there a geographic "center" or area where Free Will Baptists are clustered in Texas? I can't recall ever running into any while living there. There are plenty of them around where my parents are from in West Virginia and there were a scattering of churches around us in Western Pennsylvania. I know they have a college in Nashville, and a cluster of churches there.
Leland, the National Association website does not list churches, so far as I could tell, but there is a Northwest District, as well as several associations in California. If there is still a church in Washington state, it would probably be connected to one of those. But I couldn't find anything.Haruo wrote:The only FWBC I can find any sign of in Washington State is New Hope FBC in Sumner. I've put it on my list of places to worship in 2021. Unfortunately the websitelisted is for an outfit in Philadelphia. Maybe I'll try calling them tomorrow to see if they exist and if they know about the website snafu.
Sandy wrote:Is there a geographic "center" or area where Free Will Baptists are clustered in Texas? I can't recall ever running into any while living there. There are plenty of them around where my parents are from in West Virginia and there were a scattering of churches around us in Western Pennsylvania. I know they have a college in Nashville, and a cluster of churches there.
Rvaughn wrote:Leland, the National Association website does not list churches, so far as I could tell, but there is a Northwest District, as well as several associations in California. If there is still a church in Washington state, it would probably be connected to one of those. But I couldn't find anything.Haruo wrote:The only FWBC I can find any sign of in Washington State is New Hope FBC in Sumner. I've put it on my list of places to worship in 2021. Unfortunately the websitelisted is for an outfit in Philadelphia. Maybe I'll try calling them tomorrow to see if they exist and if they know about the website snafu.
Right. I believe this merger was finalized, or more or less finalized, in 1911. IIRC, those in the North lost most if not all of their organizations, educational institutions, etc. at this time. Of course, most of the churches went with them. Those who did not were left with no organization except possibly yearly meetings, if any of them had a majority that did not want to merge. (Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan was founded by the Northern Freewill Baptists. They are not now denominationally-affiliated, so I am not sure what happened in their story re the merger.)Tim Bonney wrote:In the north the majority of Free Will Baptists merged with the Northern Baptist Convention (Now American Baptist Churches, USA) in the early 1900s.
Rvaughn wrote:The freewill Baptists North & South rose from different backgrounds. By the time they merged with the Northern Baptist Convention, those in the North called themselves Free Baptists. Those in the South usually preferred Free Will.
So did you used to be New Hope Baptist Church? I was searching Google for "Free Will Baptist Church near me" (I'm in Skyway) and it brought up New Hope Baptist Church at your address, but the website listed is for some church in Philadelphia, "New Hope Ministries". And the phone number listed for you on this page took me to a very hard-of-hearing elderly voice that (if they heard me at all) had never heard of you. Next time I'm down that way, I'll swing by and see if you have a church building there. I was hoping to visit you for worship sometime in 2021.
Haruo wrote:t of the origins of the (northern) Free Methodists in the years leading up to the War of Southern Secession. I always assumed, and I think most people who ran into them did likewise, that "Free Methodists" meant "Free Will Methodists" (as if normal Methodists were Calvinists, when in fact outside Wales Calvinist Methodists are weirdos); but at the time it was generally assumed that "Free Methodists" meant "Abolitionist Methodists" because their most prominent leaders in the schism were largely also known for anti-slavery activism. But in fact the origin of "Free Methodists" was in the sense of "Free Pews Methodists"; the movement arose among those opposed to the then widespread Methodist custom of letting the wealthier members buy their own pews as a way of supporting the church (and also as a way of avoiding sitting with people they disliked or felt better than). The Free Methodists felt this ran afoul of James 2:3.
Haruo wrote:Yeah, I left out the anti-Masonry part. But my impression was still that free seating was the first of the various freedoms advocated.
Haruo wrote:I think they vary a lot geographically, the ones here in Seattle being a lot less rigid than in some parts of the country. Seattle Pacific University is not a tremendously conservative school as far as I can tell, and the only FM church I've attended, Rainier Avenue Church, didn't seem strict or separate-minded.
Rvaughn wrote:Leland, I stumbled across their website, which confirms that New Hope is now Riverside. Our History The site has an e-mail contact address, which might hopefully be one you haven't tried yet.
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