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Ten most historic SBC events from a true believer

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:36 pm

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And top ten influentials

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:38 pm

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Re: And top ten influentials

Postby JE Pettibone » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:34 pm

Stephen Fox wrote:http://www.centerforbaptiststudies.org/resources/heritageseries/influential.htm


ED: Steve, I am curious as to when that article was published. I am rather sure Pamela R. Durso, the Baptist History and Heritage Society and the Center for Baptist Studies are each aware that Billy Graham died in February of 2018, therefore I am guessing the link you used is at least a few years old. I do find Pam Durso's list interesting but wonder why Thomas Helwys, with out John Smyth and Annie Armstrong w/o Lottie Moon.
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Re: And top ten influentials

Postby Rvaughn » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:07 am

JE Pettibone wrote:ED: Steve, I am curious as to when that article was published. I am rather sure Pamela R. Durso, the Baptist History and Heritage Society and the Center for Baptist Studies are each aware that Billy Graham died in February of 2018, therefore I am guessing the link you used is at least a few years old.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Baptist Heritage and the 21st Century Pamphlet Series is a much as 15 years old. Durso's article is part of that series. Maybe Bruce Gourley will notice this and weigh in. He should know.
JE Pettibone wrote:I do find Pam Durso's list interesting but wonder why Thomas Helwys, with out John Smyth and Annie Armstrong w/o Lottie Moon.
I can't speak for Pam Durso, but here is a guess. Helwys's separated from Smyth, moved back to England and had continuing influence there. For the most part, I think Smyth's followers joined the Waterlander Mennonites. With the Annie Armstrong piece, she seems to be highlighting the WMU more than missions.
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Re: Ten most historic SBC events from a true believer

Postby Haruo » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:27 pm

Seems a bit odd to call Colonial persecution of Baptists like Roger Williams an event in "Southern Baptist" history. Like saying two of the most significant events in US history were the Norman Conquest of 1044 and the discovery of Hispaniola in the late 1400s.
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Re: Ten most historic SBC events from a true believer

Postby JE Pettibone » Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:42 pm

Haruo wrote:Seems a bit odd to call Colonial persecution of Baptists like Roger Williams an event in "Southern Baptist" history. Like saying two of the most significant events in US history were the Norman Conquest of 1044 and the discovery of Hispaniola in the late 1400s.


ED: Haruo, I would say that is probably because you have never been a Southern Baptist. By the way have you ever seen the Statue of Williams that overlooks Providence?
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Re: Ten most historic SBC events from a true believer

Postby Sandy » Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:01 pm

Haruo wrote:Seems a bit odd to call Colonial persecution of Baptists like Roger Williams an event in "Southern Baptist" history. Like saying two of the most significant events in US history were the Norman Conquest of 1044 and the discovery of Hispaniola in the late 1400s.


From a purely historical perspective, the "mother church" of Southern Baptists is the First Baptist Church of Charleston, South Carolina. The church was originally founded in 1682 in Kittery, Maine by William Screven, almost as old as Providence and one of the oldest continuously existing Baptist churches in the United States. Screven was actually a more committed Baptist than Williams, the latter became something else after founding Providence. Screven endured the same kind of persecution from the same groups of people that Williams did, resulting in the exit of he and his entire congregation from Maine to Charleston, where they established the First Baptist Church. Most of the Baptists who formed the SBC in 1845 are linked to that congregation.
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Re: Ten most historic SBC events from a true believer

Postby Haruo » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:09 pm

I'm not sure Williams became "something else" even though after less than a year in Providence he withdrew from Baptist membership and self-identification. My belief is he called himself a "Seeker" or something along those lines, but I don't think he meant it as the name of a different group of which he was a member. And my understanding is that in later years when FBC Providence needed pulpit supply, Williams more than once came back in that capacity.

But you're right, invoking the persecution of Screven would make good sense in SBC history terms, but Williams is out of place there.
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FBC Charleston and FBC Easley SC

Postby Stephen Fox » Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:33 pm

My sister's family are members of FBC Easley where John Adams, earned Doctorate from Baylor in History of Christianity and a Furman grad is the pastor.

This last weekend FBC Easley choir sang in the Mother Emanuel Church in Charleston where Obama did a eulogy for the Charleston 9.

In 1830 with the Desmond Vescey slave uprising, Mother Emanuel church history is strong indeed. Richard Furman the founder of Furman, the SBC was sat on a panel to judge the theology of Vescey. Furman agreed with the civil judge Vescey's theology was suspect and he deserved to die. The Citadel was founded to tamp down future slave uprisings.

Vescey was a key leader at Mother Emanuel.

Just wanted to all a little to the things Sandy left out of his Charleston Baptist history.
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