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Taking Christ out of Furman

Postby Stephen Fox » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:43 am

I was in a conversation with 15 folks yesterday, October 20 Homecoming morning in the Furman Library. Two trustees were Present as well as key Furman proffs and staff and the development officer in the Slavery Justice Initiative roll out. All trustees meet this coming weekend.

Hidden in the recommendations of the Report is a poison pill, a move to replace the University Seal and take Christ out of the official Furman Motto as it has been for more than 150 years.

Institutional drama certain to follow
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October 22 comment on Furman facebook

Postby Stephen Fox » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:04 am

I was in a group of about 15 folks in the Library Saturday morning for the rollout of the Slavery Justice initiative. Fascinating report but I fear there is something of a poison pill in the recommendations that would in effect remove Christ from the University Seal. I posted my concerns on the facebook wall of Brandon Inabinet. We remain facebook friends but he deleted my comment. I also shared my concerns on the wall of the New Baptist Covenant which had their tenth annual gathering last week. You can click over to their wall and see my comment in the Ruby Sales thread. Furman certainly is part of a big historical movement as Ms Sales is quoted with the following: “I submit to you today that the story has not been told – that the South has a rendezvous with destiny, that the whole struggle for human and civil rights will be fought in the South,” said Sales. “It will be the battleground for human and civil rights in the 21st century.”


Stephen M. Fox And at Furman, you can not disconnect Civil Rights from names like TC Smith, Marshall Frady, Martin England, LD Johnson, Will D. Campbell and Carlyle Marney and I see NO enthusiasm for celebrating their contributions as Baptists in the current Furman conversation and that saddens me..
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Interest elevates at Furman

Postby Stephen Fox » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:36 am

Latest post on facebook quoting myself

There seems to have arisen a misunderstanding of my use of the term poison pill. The term was never uttered in the meeting Saturday morning or in any conversation I can remember to date about the report. The term is mine after Ive thought about the presentation Sunday and the many conversations I had since then and a few before to describe the concern about the seal. I wanted to do my best to be as clear as I could about that. Thanks. Looking to see how this concern plays out with the New Baptist Covenant and wider Baptist progressive Movement given well aware of the 1990 breal with the SC SBC, Furman will forever be known as a Historically BaptistCollege and the virtues of that history should be proclaimed as broadly as the current gut wrenching over the apologists for slavery of the founding fathers. Going forward maybe somebody can channel Marshall Frady much better than my capacity, in the interest of Transparency and I find many suspicions about that in the chatter this process has evoked. Thank you, Proud to be a Paladin and Jesus knows that and many Furman folks now in heaven if I could be so retrograde at this juncture to utter such arcane phrases, callin on the name of the Lord and what not.
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And this Tuesday 23rd

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:35 am

I was gonna let things lie re the Slavery Justice conversations but as the Trustees I understand are on campus this weekend this may be the best opportunity to get this to them. Of the recommendations in the report I have some reservations about Lillian Brock Flemming Way but then I was reminded last night on Upstate WYFF just what a force for good she is, tireless in leaning forward. I think the statue of Joe Vaughn coming in the library is spot on. That said all this statuary and recognition without some honor to the likes of Martin England and TC Smith Furman legends for those who know the University best and whose institutional memory is widest should is shallow. For certain it was major oversight not to recognize Marshall Frady at Fluor Field as one of Furman's finest. A soccer player on campus for one year becomes a Furman Legend while the greatest social justice journalist of the last half of the 20th Century goes without recognition is a travesty, no diss on soccer. I'm well aware former President Shi was to have Frady on campus for a semester to a year then came Frady's untimely death.....England and TC Smith like Martin Luther King Jr. were Baptists and Frady the son of a Baptist minister. As Furman honor's its civil right history these men should be uppermost in this current initiative.....Jesse Jackson was main eulogizer for Marshall Frady. Let's remind every generation of Furman students in the coming years, maybe a course every three years of the best of the Baptist legacy with a focus on the Civil Rights era and all who paid a price, not just spotlighting Joe Vaughn and Ms Fleming. Thanks.
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latest post of FU facebook wall, Oct 26

Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:14 am

Brinkley was on Live with Don Lemon from Greenville last night on CNN after his Furman presentation to talk about Trump and the many pipe bombing attempts the last two days. Brinkley said Trump has been a failure in the way he has addressed this crisis "as he has failed" in so many other aspects of his Presidency. How the many Republicans in Upstate SC with Furman degrees appear to be struck mute re Trump is a mystery to me. Just take a look at the current online site of New York Review of Books and their piece on the Suffocation of Democracy......And while Furman has the the Slavery and Justice initiative front and center and surgically examining the utterances of of James Clement Furman 150 years ago, why can't the committee and Provost George Shields who seems to be the key administrator in this exercise call on Coach Bobby Johnson, a Furman legend on the NCAA national selection committee to publicly call on the likes of Condi Rice and Archie Manning to call out Trump for his sons of bitches statement last fall in Huntsville, Alabama. Trump implied two of Nick Saban's Heismann Trophy winners were sonsabitches because their take on Kaepernick leaned more toward the black resister than the Nationalist president. Where is Furman on that? And let's do ask What would Marshall Frady say?
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Molly Worthen has advice for Identity politics at Furman

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:34 pm

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This conversation could go to NPR

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:39 pm

Initial conversations have taken place. The 1A program in the old Diane Rehm timeslot
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