Trump - A full term... or not

[Jon Estes]

There is a hope going around from some that Trump will not be a full one term President.

I understand we all have opinions... likes or dislikes of our sitting President but what is it that makes you believe he will not be a full one term President?

My opinion -- he will be a full one term President. I am not sure if he will run a second term but he will lead for a full four years.

I do not buy the line from most I read as they come across as emotional more than logical. They seem to hold to conspiracy theories rather than known facts. They seem to simply hate Trump. What do they call themselves... never-Trumpers?

Adding a second thought to this post ---

I think the worst is yet to come, after four or eight years of Trump. I do not think there will ever be a sitting President again who will not be under investigation and the opposing party doing all they can to discredit and work to impeach. In this same line of thinking, I also think the attacks and means to which the opposition will go will only get worse in their tactics and schemes.

We are leaving my grandchildren a huge moral / political mess.

[Sandy]

If you look at the facts, objectively, and away from the political lenses, and there are sources that are reporting this under standards that confirm their credibility, there's more than just the Mueller investigation and the "Russia thing." I might have a few doubts about where that particular investigation was leading, up until they issued the indictments, particularly who they indicted, and the trail that they are clearly travelling with regard to whom they have in the dock. What's known on the outside is incriminating enough. The reaction of the Trump administration to each step the investigation takes, each person who is named, each indictment, each listing of specific meeting times and places with Russians, confirms that there is something he doesn't want known.

We're already at the point where three key Trump campaign officials and administration advisers have been indicted, and given testimony to the investigation. Now, as a result of the Nunes memo, they also have Carter Page, and they have the direct connection to sources other than the dossier, including Papadoupolous and Flynn, that justified the FISA warrants. That's more than they ever had on Nixon. You don't need a news source, conservative or liberal, to find any of this out, just go to the Congressional record and read the transcripts. I'm sure Mueller has more than either intelligence committee does, and if that's the case, and I think it is, Trump is toast. If it happens before November's election, then you'll at least still have a Republican in the White House. If it happens after January of 2019, then its Katy bar the door.

Trump might have a year left. Maybe.

[Haruo]

I agree, Jon, that it is likely that civility in government will not make much of a resurgence in our lifetimes.

I am not at all sure how long Trump will last, but as time goes on I think more and more Republicans in Congress are becoming fed up with his behavior and its effect on their reelectability. And they probably know as well as Sandy does or better that their chances is in 2020 are much better if the crisis comes earlier rather than later. So we'll see.

Not all Republican voters are eager to destroy our fisheries etc.

[Jim]

Actual news organizations have reported extensively the info gathered by congressional committees indicating that the Demo/Clinton/FBI conspiracy (current memos regarding FISA and Hillary's State Department) to ruin Trump both before and after the election will help him, not that impeachment by a Repub House would touch it anyway. The latest communications between the infamous high-up FBI fornicators also indicate that the conspiracy went all the way to Obama, who wanted to “be kept in the loop.” The current democrat election-corruption makes Watergate look like afternoon tea.

[Haruo]

[Sandy]

Most of what Jim posted comes from right wing media sources, and has already been discredited by the facts. It's nothing more than part of the subterfuge that gets shoved out by the Trump administration as a means of distracting from reality. Most of the refutation of it is coming from Republicans, as is the push to keep the investigation moving forward.

[Jim]

[Jon Estes]

[Jon Estes]

[Dave Roberts]

It's actually fun to see what the BBC and Deutsche Welt Anschaung have to say about the US--they don't have a dog in this fight.

[Sandy]

[Jon Estes]

[Sandy]

He's not any president as far as I am concerned. However, at your request, I will refer to him as "Trump."

[Jon Estes]

[Joseph Patrick]

[William Thornton]

[Jim]

Was that William JEFFERSON or Barack HUSSEIN?

[Sandy]

[Tim Bonney]

There is a good chance Trump will go full term because it is, rightfully, hard to remove an elected President. But his Presidency is different than any other in our history. His election shows a break down of our two party system. His election also shows a drastic failure of Evangelicalism to prioritize theology over politics. Right now theology is being trumped (no pun intended) by politics.

[Jon Estes]

[Jon Estes]

[William Thornton]

[Haruo]

[Sandy]

[Haruo]

Part of the problem may be that so much of the Religious Right is English-speaking, and thus has an innate (or at least early-childhood-origin) tendency to confuse what is right with what is right.