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Defining "Evangelical" Study by Lifeway

Postby Sandy » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:51 pm

https://www.baptiststandard.com/news/fa ... arch-says/

Some interesting things in this survey, some surprising, some not so surprising. The fact that a relatively high percentage of self-identified Evangelicals don't hold strongly to the core beliefs identified in the survey is surprising. The connection to the Republican party is not surprising, though the percentages are a lot lower than I thought they'd be.

For a group of people who are so insistent on doctrinal conformity as a major part of faith, the preaching and teaching doesn't seem to be making much of an impact.
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Re: Defining "Evangelical" Study by Lifeway

Postby Rvaughn » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:04 pm

A quite interesting study!
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Re: Defining "Evangelical" Study by Lifeway

Postby Dave Roberts » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:57 am

Sandy wrote:https://www.baptiststandard.com/news/faith-culture/evangelical-label-beliefs-often-odds-research-says/

Some interesting things in this survey, some surprising, some not so surprising. The fact that a relatively high percentage of self-identified Evangelicals don't hold strongly to the core beliefs identified in the survey is surprising. The connection to the Republican party is not surprising, though the percentages are a lot lower than I thought they'd be.

For a group of people who are so insistent on doctrinal conformity as a major part of faith, the preaching and teaching doesn't seem to be making much of an impact.


I'm not certain that lots of conservative Baptists identify themselves as evangelical. That term, to me, has not penetrated down the system and is often used by the news media to designate "political evangelicals" who often reflect little Christian belief structure. Also, what you may say about scripture often has little to do with what comes out in your actual behavior. I have encountered several "inerrantists" who will lie readily when it suits even their religious purposes.
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Re: Defining "Evangelical" Study by Lifeway

Postby Dave Roberts » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:20 am

This analysis in a NY Times editorial provides another perspective on this study.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/15/opinion/sunday/war-christmas-evangelicals.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
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Re: Defining "Evangelical" Study by Lifeway

Postby Rvaughn » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:02 am

Dave Roberts wrote:I'm not certain that lots of conservative Baptists identify themselves as evangelical.
I don't know how widespread/popular its use is among certain types of conservative. I am a Baptist who considers myself conservative (though I don't particularly prefer that term either, except in context of defining oneself on the liberal-moderate-conservative spectrum), and I do not generally consider or refer to myself as "evangelical," nor do I think our church folks would either.
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Re: Defining "Evangelical" Study by Lifeway

Postby Dave Roberts » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:22 am

Rvaughn wrote:
Dave Roberts wrote:I'm not certain that lots of conservative Baptists identify themselves as evangelical.
I don't know how widespread/popular its use is among certain types of conservative. I am a Baptist who considers myself conservative (though I don't particularly prefer that term either, except in context of defining oneself on the liberal-moderate-conservative spectrum), and I do not generally consider or refer to myself as "evangelical," nor do I think our church folks would either.


I have never defined myself as an "evangelical" and I'm still trying to figure out whether I am a conservative-liberal or a liberal-conservative. Guess that's the danger of trying to be a moderate in a world where others always want to stick you in a pigeonhole.
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Re: Defining "Evangelical" Study by Lifeway

Postby Tim Bonney » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:12 pm

Many United Methodists, especially those who merged with the Methodist Church from the Evangelical United Brethren, consider themselves "evangelicals." But do not fit into the current definition commonly used most often for the Evangelical movement. I think it could easily confuse a survey.
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