Flynn’s Plea

[KeithE]

More to come. Give your impressions here as matters proceed.

[Jon Estes]

[William Thornton]

ABC suspends reporter over it. My impression is that that was good.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/us/b ... d-abc.html

[KeithE]

[Jon Estes]

[Dave Roberts]

Best response all weekend was an editorial cartoon I saw of Ivanka leaning over 45's head whispering, "Daddy, will I have to go to jail too?"

[Tim Bonney]

[Sandy]

If you're actually paying attention to any of the facts that are out there, you know that to say there was "no collusion" is ignoring facts that have already been proven, including some of the content of the information that was exchanged. It is established fact that the Russians were putting out feelers and making contacts with people who would make it possible for them to help Donald Trump. That's known, and proven. Even the evidence that the house and senate intel committees have publicly revealed prove that. The only mystery now is who, what, how much, and who knew. Flynn must have turned over a considerable amount of evidence, to elicit the kind of statements and tweets from the buffoon and his lawyers, and from the whole legal team, and to settle for the plea deal he got. Manifort must have quite a pile as well, considering that approach, and his legal team's response. If you can't see the collusion, and the trail of crumbs leading right up to Trump, then you're either blind or ignorant, or both. Or you're just ignoring the evidence and wrapped up in a bubble.

[Haruo]

Most of the evidence I've seen a is more about the Russians colluding with the Trump campaign, and it's not illegal, I imagine, for them to do so. The other way around would be criminal if not treasonous, but this way around the campaign's passive acceptance of the Russians' help is a great reason, as if you needed one, not to trust Trump or his associates, but probably not enough to make anything bigger than perjury stick to them provably.

[Tim Bonney]

[KeithE]

[KeithE]

[Sandy]

The bottom line looks like it will be obstruction of justice, though there also seems to be some criminal activity involved in the collusion itself, along with violations of federal law. I think the only real mystery now is who else from his campaign was involved. The implications could be far reaching for those involved.