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Where is the outrage here...

Postby Jon Estes » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:14 am

Wanting gun laws that stop the killings...

Where is the outrage here...



Are you willing to fight as hard and stand against such people who do this?

If this illegal would not have been in the country, this 6-year-old girl would still be an innocent 6-year-old girl. Now she is a violated

Think I'll watch the late night gun screamers and see if they care about this subject.

What laws are you willing to see put in place and followed through on?

It seems Trenton is a sanctuary city.

Wish the dad would have had a gun and could have ended the problem that night.
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Re: Where is the outrage here...

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Re: Where is the outrage here...

Postby Jon Estes » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:46 am

All your gibberish is foolish.

100% of illegal alien criminals are guilty of a crime.

Remove these illegal criminals and the crimes they commit in my country will not happen.

To compare the illegal to citizen crimes is blowing smoke and avoiding the issue.

You want to get rid of high powered guns and weapons which are like what the man in Vegas used. I mean your are adamant about the guns now the the shooter killed people but want to give comparisons to citizens when a six year old girl is raped. The only heart you show is your outraged then give multiple links for a some comparisons that do not count.

Let me make it easy. If we get rid of all illegal criminals and keep them out how many of them will be here to rape little girls or other crimes?
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Re: Where is the outrage here...

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Re: Where is the outrage here...

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Re: Where is the outrage here...

Postby Dave Roberts » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:32 am

If a person commits a crime, there should be appropriate punishment as well as opportunities for rehabilitation. Deportation as part of a sentence makes no sense. Those we deport simply come back, find a new location, and may well offend again. The document status of a person should not change the way they are punished for crimes for which they are convicted in a court of law.
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Re: Where is the outrage here...

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Re: Where is the outrage here...

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Any outrage over this?

Postby Sandy » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:29 pm

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... ce-officer

White kid, not an immigrant or here illegally. Native Texan. On a campus where students are allowed to conceal carry, ostensibly to "make the campus safer." Students his age are not allowed to carry, but he got hold of a weapon somehow, and managed to shoot the officer inside the campus police station.

So now a university police officer is dead. Preventable? I think so.
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Re: Where is the outrage here...

Postby Sandy » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:44 pm

The illegal immigrant in this case, Edgar Mendoza, is from Guatemala. And according to several of the news sources, other than Fox, he will be deported to Guatemala.

http://www.trentonian.com/article/TT/20 ... /170929981

It does not appear that a new law is needed. Someone here illegally is deported if they commit a crime.

As far as the problem of illegal immigration is concerned, most of the people who are here who are illegal entered during the eight years of the Bush administration when he cut the budget for the Border Patrol and border enforcement. Apparently, this guy was one of them. The number of illegal border crossings went way down during the Obama administration, deportations went up (you can easily check that out).

This particular illegal will be deported because he committed a crime, and drew attention to himself. The vast majority of them, far fewer than American citizens, do not commit crimes. Sanctuary cities aren't the problem. Enforcement is. Republicans won't come down on businesses and corporations that provide jobs for illegals which is why they come and why they stay. If you find an illegal working at a business in this country without a green card, thus, illegally, fine the business enough to make it hurt, and the problem will go away. If they get caught twice, close them down. Guaranteed to reduce the numbers of illegals in the country.
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Re: Where is the outrage here...

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