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Ga Baptist Christian Index tackles the Curse of Ham

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:40 pm

https://christianindex.org/tangled-thre ... bc-part-1/

I commented on their facebook wall. Somehow they didn't mention that on NPR Dwight McKissic says well into the 90s Betty Criswell was still teaching the Curse of Ham to her SS Class at FBC Dallas.
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Re: Ga Baptist Christian Index tackles the Curse of Ham

Postby Haruo » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:55 pm

You mean, how come it's not kosher? ;)
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Re: Ga Baptist Christian Index tackles the Curse of Ham

Postby David Flick » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:46 am

Stephen Fox wrote:https://christianindex.org/tangled-thre ... bc-part-1/

I commented on their facebook wall. Somehow they didn't mention that on NPR Dwight McKissic says well into the 90s Betty Criswell was still teaching the Curse of Ham to her SS Class at FBC Dallas.

    Haruo wrote:You mean, how come it's not kosher? ;)

      Good one, Haruo! :lol: If I were still in charge of Golden Spurs, you'd get one for that...

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Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:54 am

I'll let Flick and his Golden Spur try to figger out just which one it was. Others may want to guess as well

BTW I liked Haruo's Kosher comment too. Haruo and I are brothers of the Sacred Harp
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Re: Ga Baptist Christian Index tackles the Curse of Ham

Postby Rvaughn » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:29 pm

Grady Caldwell says, "The so-called Curse of Ham is a false doctrine that was perpetuated to validate the idea that it was biblical for slaves to be in subjugation to the White race." I would think that is accurate conclusion, though I've never actually studied the origin of this idea. Perhaps it became so common that many people continued to assume it was an accurate interpretation of the Bible even when it no longer served such a purpose to them personally.

There was one idea worse than this one, which probably arose for much the same purpose. I had never heard of it until several years back when I ran across a pamphlet among my grandfather's things that discussed the question "Is the Negro a Beast?" The author of the pamphlet asserted that black people were not descendants of Adam, did not have a soul, etc. Apparently this view was never as widespread and died out sooner. My grandfather died before I was born, but I know he didn't agree with the pamphlet because he had it marked up with comments and scripture verses that disagreed with the author's views. Lo and behold, about 4 or 5 years I ran across a guy who actually held this view (one I had never even heard of growing up in the South, starting life in a racially segregated South)!
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Re: Ga Baptist Christian Index tackles the Curse of Ham

Postby Neil Heath » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:59 pm

David Flick wrote:Good one, Haruo! :lol: If I were still in charge of Golden Spurs, you'd get one for that...


You're welcome to resume your awarding of Spurs, David. I'm not doing much with it, and you were much better at it.
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Re: Ga Baptist Christian Index tackles the Curse of Ham

Postby Mrs Haruo » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:34 am

If you had ever heard my father complaining about the horrible food he had in the Army during WWII, you would think it was the curse of SPAM. :lol:
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Re: Ga Baptist Christian Index tackles the Curse of Ham

Postby Rvaughn » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:40 am

Spam? I love it. (The non-identifiable meat in a can, not the worthless e-mails that fill your box.)
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Re: Ga Baptist Christian Index tackles the Curse of Ham

Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:38 am

Neil Heath wrote:
David Flick wrote:Good one, Haruo! :lol: If I were still in charge of Golden Spurs, you'd get one for that...


You're welcome to resume your awarding of Spurs, David. I'm not doing much with it, and you were much better at it.
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I don't want this to get ugly but I don't think Flick was qualified at all to adjudicate the golden spur. Better in the hands of fair minded folks like Dave Roberts and Haruo. I move Flick retire from the Spur and Roberts and Haruo become a committee of two to reset, reinvigorate the award.
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Re: Ga Baptist Christian Index tackles the Curse of Ham

Postby William Thornton » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:42 pm

Stephen Fox wrote:
Neil Heath wrote:
David Flick wrote:Good one, Haruo! :lol: If I were still in charge of Golden Spurs, you'd get one for that...


You're welcome to resume your awarding of Spurs, David. I'm not doing much with it, and you were much better at it.
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I don't want this to get ugly but I don't think Flick was qualified at all to adjudicate the golden spur. Better in the hands of fair minded folks like Dave Roberts and Haruo. I move Flick retire from the Spur and Roberts and Haruo become a committee of two to reset, reinvigorate the award.


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Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:28 pm

Would you like one of my books from my will. Most going to a nephew who is a big reader and the younger children of a first cousin active in CBF. Came up with a pristine copy of Cold Mtn, and nine other books in a bag sale at Salvation Army last Friday all for a dollar. Had to borrow it from the wife of an independent Baptist preacher who has about 11 children and a great story about Zell Miller. He also has a storefront church service for about 11 Hispanics in Collinsville downtown on Sunday afternoons. I sometime sit outside on the street bench on the sidewalk while they sing the opening hymns.

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Re: Ga Baptist Christian Index tackles the Curse of Ham

Postby David Flick » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:28 am

    Stephen Fox wrote:I don't want this to get ugly but I don't think Flick was qualified at all to adjudicate the golden spur. Better in the hands of fair minded folks like Dave Roberts and Haruo. I move Flick retire from the Spur and Roberts and Haruo become a committee of two to reset, reinvigorate the award.

      Fine with me, Fox. I retired from handing spurs 5+ years ago. You can put together a blue ribbon golden spur committee and do it however you desire. I'll steer clear.

      Incidentally, over the past several years BL.Com has become fairly devoid of good humor. I rarely see much humor anymore. It could be that the climate change alarmists are too busy saving the world from non existing man-made global warming to think about good humor... :wink:

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Climate change is comparable to Betty CRiswell

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:17 am

teachings in her Sunday School class.

I heard something on NPR over the weekend about how things are playing out in Chile. Makes a strong case Flick is riding the wrong horse. But lets stick here to the Curse of Ham
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