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Sandy wrote:Jim wrote:Just as I surmise that no one in this Forum is particularly interested in my life story, I logically presume that no one is that caught up in Stephen’s. Name and serial number are considered all that’s necessary in a soldier’s life story if he’s captured or even just transferred from one post to another, ergo, not much more than that seems necessary here, though maybe location and communication-information could have some importance. Perhaps things would be different in the extant case if this Forum, upon appeal, could effect an investigation and even a solution if one is needed for what Stephen considers an injustice by his former church. This is improbable. The facts of the matter from Foxy’s viewpoint have been rendered maybe hundreds of times over the years but I doubt that the “other side” would even consider a Forum subpoena, so that would seem to be the end of the matter. Since I am certain that actually all of the U.S. and the rest of the world have never heard of me (or Stephen or you), I would not be interested in drawing attention to (gasp) all those traffic tickets or other injustices I have suffered.
I think Stephen should start to enjoy his being set free from the Collinsville Baptist Church and its narrow minded religious bigotry.
Jim wrote:This one sentence totally destroys the rest of your rant. Presumably with absolutely no actual knowledge of the whole matter you have concluded that the Collinsville church is cursed with narrow minded religious bigotry (as your rant noted, the curse of the rabid evangelicals, mainly SBC). How pathetic and hypocritical, a mere attempt to exhibit ad hominem animus by using someone else’s half-baked denunciation of a church by presenting only his side of the issue and your presumably non-existent attempt to get at the whole truth!
Sandy wrote:Jim wrote:This one sentence totally destroys the rest of your rant. Presumably with absolutely no actual knowledge of the whole matter you have concluded that the Collinsville church is cursed with narrow minded religious bigotry (as your rant noted, the curse of the rabid evangelicals, mainly SBC). How pathetic and hypocritical, a mere attempt to exhibit ad hominem animus by using someone else’s half-baked denunciation of a church by presenting only his side of the issue and your presumably non-existent attempt to get at the whole truth!
As far as whether the Collinsville Baptist Church is made up of narrow minded religious bigots, well, that's not exactly what I said.
Jim wrote:Sandy wrote:Jim wrote:This one sentence totally destroys the rest of your rant. Presumably with absolutely no actual knowledge of the whole matter you have concluded that the Collinsville church is cursed with narrow minded religious bigotry (as your rant noted, the curse of the rabid evangelicals, mainly SBC). How pathetic and hypocritical, a mere attempt to exhibit ad hominem animus by using someone else’s half-baked denunciation of a church by presenting only his side of the issue and your presumably non-existent attempt to get at the whole truth!
As far as whether the Collinsville Baptist Church is made up of narrow minded religious bigots, well, that's not exactly what I said.
As you can see (maybe), that is precisely what you said.
Jim wrote:S. (Tues., 30 May): I think Stephen should start to enjoy his being set free from the Collinsville Baptist Church and its narrow minded religious bigotry.
Without any question (as not you, of course, but everyone else can see by checking the 30 May post), you described Fox’s former church with the term narrow minded religious bigotry. Trying to use some sort of tortured grammatical garbage to wiggle out of that penultimate bigotry of your own is beneath contempt.
Jim wrote:S. (Tues., 30 May): I think Stephen should start to enjoy his being set free from the Collinsville Baptist Church and its narrow minded religious bigotry.
Without any question (as not you, of course, but everyone else can see by checking the 30 May post), you described Fox’s former church with the term narrow minded religious bigotry. Trying to use some sort of tortured grammatical garbage to wiggle out of that penultimate bigotry of your own is beneath contempt.
Sandy wrote:I didn't deny what I said. In fact, the way I worded the statement is integral to the point, and both you and Jim missed it. Stephen didn't.
Jim wrote:Sandy wrote:I didn't deny what I said. In fact, the way I worded the statement is integral to the point, and both you and Jim missed it. Stephen didn't.
Ah…no. I got the point, very well made by you. Shakespeare would have described it as “sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Others might simply conclude it as the penultimate (coming after all others in time or space or degree or being the only one remaining) example of a closed mind.
Jim wrote:I worked 10 years full-time in SBC churches (decade of the 1960s) and saw up close and personal the problems created by members who for whatever reason attempted frantically and mostly unsuccessfully to impose their positions on the rest of the congregation, especially if they were able to convince a handful of folks to go along. Some 40 or so years later, I wrote a novel about this very subject. Anyone is invited to give it a look:http://www.lulu.com/shop/james-clark/cain/paperback/product-4987791.html.
Has Casey Mattox of Collinsville, Alabama on your staff googled and read closely the religion dispatches piece Religious Right out of the Closet"; and how would he advise his hometown Collinsville Baptist church to vote in the Bama December 14 election between Roy Moore and Doug Jones. Word on the street is Nick Saban and his wife and the majority of his congregation St. Francis Catholic Church in Tuscaloosa is voting againts the leadership of the Bammer Southern Baptist Convention to wit Saban is voting for Doug Jones for the majority of his football team, people of color. Saban spoke out against Trump calling him a Deceiver. If Trump is a Deceiver then what pray tell is Steven Bannon. Read Saban in Saturdays down South on NFL and patriotism. Where is Casey Mattox. Is he struck mute like the 8 ministers to whom ML king Sent the letter from the Bham Jail? What Did casey mattox learn at the UVA.
Does he have any more discernment than he did when he left Collinsville, or still leaning toward the Know Nothings Lincoln tried to navigate 160 years ago?
Stephen Fox wrote:https://baptistnews.com/article/offering-prayer-christian-activist-threatened-with-jail/#.WsfyG3kQUiQ
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