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[Jim]

There is collective apoplexy among the democrats in the Comey-firing. Senate Minority Leader Schumer just a while back professed his utter disgust with Comey but today is accusing the prexy of everything from meanness to whatever in doing precisely what Schumer implied—if not insisted—he wanted since he blamed Comey (so did Hillary) for Clinton’s defeat. The firing is the only bi-partisan thing that has happened for years since boatloads of democrats blamed Comey for their landslide loss of both the presidency and the Congress and lots of republicans blame him for not putting Hillary before a Grand Jury in July of 2016, when he did a TV number on her, 12 minutes explaining a case involving perjury and treason (those SECRET servers in her basement) and one minute to explain it away since he had already been told by Lynch apparently (that tarmac agreement with Bubba) that she must not be touched. Comey outfoxed them anyway but weep not because he could have manned-up and started a trip behind bars for her. Even high school students (fifth-graders for that matter) can understand this if not deceived by their teachers.

[Sandy]

[Jon Estes]

[Sandy]

[Jon Estes]

[Jim]

[Sandy]

President Clinton wasn't under investigation by the FBI when he fired Sessions. In fact, he had determined he wasn't going to replace Sessions because he didn't believe that a change in the White House necessitated a change in the directorship of the FBI. Bush would have fired Sessions if the information that led up to it had been disclosed earlier. There's a little bit of a difference here. Trump is under direct investigation, as are most of the people who worked with him on his campaign. And he claims that the reason he fired Comey was because of the inappropriate remarks and "esaggerations" made about the Clinton investigation. I'm still ROFL over the fact that Trump basically has had to say that Clinton was innocent, and wronged by Comey in order to fire him and attempt to hold up the wheels rolling inexorably toward his impeachment.

[Jim]

[Sandy]

You tell a nice tale, Jim, but unless you read the FBI file on Clinton at the time he fired Sessions, your assertion is a fantasy from your own mind, and not a fact. The FBI might well have a file on me too, but it doesn't mean there is an official investigation into my activities, and by that same token, there wasn't one going on related to Clinton when Sessions was fired.

It's hard to speculate on what the Republicans in Congress would have done if Hillary had been elected. To impeach, you must have a charge that meets constitutional muster. Clinton was cleared by the FBI investigation. You have to keep saying that over and over again to get it. Clinton was cleared by the FBI. There was no evidence of anything to substantiate the charges. There was also nothing on Huma Abedin's computer that was classified. They already knew that before Comey made that announcement. Now Trump is saying he fired Comey because he misspoke about Hillary, and treated her badly because she didn't do anything wrong. Well, OK, he can call himself a liar if he wants. But the 'Nah nah nah nah boo boo , Clinton and Obama did it too" mantra just doesn't hold water. Bill Clinton is owed an apology by any of his critics who supported Trump. And they are all hypocrites.'

[JE Pettibone]

[Sandy]

[Jon Estes]

[Sandy]

So you're saying that one sin is worse than others, and it is OK to excuse others because there's one you have singled out as being worse.

As far as gun regulation goes, it is sorely needed. Given the job he is doing as President, buffoon is probably a kind description. The American people are certainly seeing it, and some of his core group of followers seem to be catching on too.

[Jon Estes]

[Sandy]

[Jon Estes]

[Sandy]

[Stephen Fox]

She has the ...... For it!

[Jon Estes]

[Sandy]

Trump is proving to be extremely self-absorbed, and directed to his own interests. His political perspective is to throw bones where needed to get what he wants. The last week has proven to be exactly what I thought this presidency would turn out to be, a total, complete, unmitigated disaster with the security of the US at high risk. A convenience "conversion" and a quick shift from a lifelong pro-choice position won't convince me, and the rest of the character hasn't changed. I would not compromise my principles, or my faith, to cast a ballot for Trump.

Jon's biggest concern, when it comes to health care, always comes around to how unfair he thinks it is that if health care is a basic human right, it should be collectively supported in order to make access to everything that is available equal for all people. It sounds like he resents having to be involved in some kind of shared responsibility, or to part with what he thinks is his fair share. I believe that's exactly where the moral hitch is when it comes to this subject. Unless you can get completely away from the idea that health care is solely an economic commodity, and should be distributed according to the law of supply and demand, which means that only those wealthy enough to afford it can experience its full benefit, then you don't believe it is a basic human right. That's like telling someone dying of thirst that they don't have any right to water if they haven't worked and earned enough to pay the price for it. It's pretty clear that the bottom line for you is money.

I'd suggest a literal reading of Acts, starting at 2"42, and going through 4:37. In that passage, it seems the early church did a lot of things Jon, or the Donald, wouldn't approve of, like gathering food for those who didn't work to pay for it, redistributing the wealth by selling possessions and goods and giving away the proceeds to those who didn't work to pay for it. They actually healed a lame beggar, who didn't work to pay for it, and who basically sat where he could just ask for a handout every day. Clearly he wasn't deserving of the medical care, and Peter and John were violating free market principles by healing him and not charging him for it. Gosh, they were inspired so much by what was going on that they prayed for boldness, the Holy Spirit shook the place, and they started providing free medical care all over Jerusalem. How anti-Trump was that?

[JE Pettibone]

Ed: Sandy hoe long did "the church" practice the Charity you describe. And was it for the general population or only for their fellow followers?. Did it originate by a comaand from GOD or was it man made? And do you practice this today?

BTW, Mr . Thread Moderato,r this is far off of the thread topic.

[Sandy]

[JE Pettibone]

[Jon Estes]

[KeithE]