Pathological Liar

[KeithE]

The Washington Post is keeping a list of Trump's misleading statements or outright lies since his inauguration.

As of Feb 21, . You can follow this streak and read specifics at . He managed not to tell a falsehood on March 1 (the only day has has not done so). That was the day he was supposedly basking in the glory of his SOTU speech. But in that speech he had more than 20 lies (read about them in the last link above).

All politicians (and people) have lied (except Jimmy Carter of course ), but Trump deserves the title “Pathological Liar” - he can't help himself (witness his tweets on Saturday morning).

Yes the Washington Post is on a “witch hunt”. But that's their job. Reading the specifics, I'd say they are fair and usually (not always) fact-based.

[Jim]

[Dave Roberts]

Jim, I'm fascinated by the fixation on Benghazi and 4 deaths while Reagan got a pass on 242 dead in Beirut where the guards were not even issued live ammunition per the POTUS order.

[William Thornton]

Pathological liars? We talking about the Clintons?

[Dave Roberts]

[Sandy]

Deflect is all that Trump or his administration can do, apparently. Well, why not? He's got Sean Spicer, Kellyanne Conway, Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller as advisors and spokespersons, and they are masters at deceit, lying, obfuscating and generally making statements without a shred of evidence to back them up. The object, clearly, is to tell as many lies, and as big as possible, that you can get away with, provide no backup whatsoever, and then depend on the forgetfulness or laziness of people who won't check it out. Getting people to believe you means pointing to someone else and making a blanket accusation. These are all summa cum laude graduates of the Stalin-Goebbels School of Propaganda. I believe it was Goebbels who said that it is always better to tell the ignorant masses the biggest lie possible, because you can count on their short memory to forget it.

The number of lies, the type, and the intensity are a clear indication of exactly what is going on. The orange haired buffoon was fussing and whining about someone in the White House "leaking" information, like that's something that never happened before, or that among the assorted flotsam of liars and opportunists he's surrounded himself with, there's not anyone willing to break their oath of loyalty to advance their own agenda and position. The language is pretty easily translated, "Obama was using White House sources to wiretap the Trump campaign" easily translates to "The news about our contacts with the Russians, and our campaign's connection to them for help winning the election is really bad, and we desperately need to come up with some kind of diversion." Don't need his tax returns or confirmation to determine their level of desperation.

[Sandy]

[Jim]

[Sandy]

[Dave Roberts]

[Jim]

[Sandy]

Interesting. I watched some of those hearings, and read the report of the Gowdy committee. The Secretary of State accepted responsibility for the security levels at the consulate, in a way that Reagan never did for the lapses that took place in Beirut. The Gowdy committee report included information provided by US intelligence that led to the decision which determined the level of security at the consulate in Benghazi, and that recommendation was made, and signed, by General Petraeus. Essentially, the conclusion of the Gowdy committee, which led them to bury the completion of their report as far on the back pages as they could get it, was that the Secretary of State, and the President, acted correctly based on the information they were provided by the CIA. As much as the Republicans wanted to make something out of it, the facts just didn't bear out all of the speculation about Benghazi. Even a rabid partisan like Gowdy couldn't twist the facts to make political hay.

[KeithE]

Update: 317 falsehoods or misleading statements in 63 days in office.

Read all the details .

This is really incredible that he has not yet been impeached.

[Sandy]

The Russian collusion might well provide everything needed for that. There was Nunes whose actions more or less proved collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. He went to tattle about the information the committee got from the FBI, and then to get marching orders from the buffoon. Now, incredibly, Flynn is asking for immunity in exchange for his testimony, something that he criticized Clinton aids for doing, and which he said was evidence that they had committed a crime. On top of that, today the buffoon attacked the freedom caucus. There are plenty of Republicans who want to see the buffoon gone, and the more distance between his departure and 2018, the better. I just hope that the buffoon and his gang don't do irreparable damage to the country in the meantime.

MSNBC did an outstanding job of putting this story together tonight. Wait until they've posted it on their websites, particularly Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow, and watch the clips. First of all, the journalism standards are outstanding, not like the crap you see on Faux News or Breitbart or World Net Daily or the Daily Wire. And second, they back up their reporting, and substantiate their facts. Maddow is particularly adept at this.

[KeithE]

[Sandy]

There are those in Congress, mostly Republicans, who will put their political agenda ahead of everything else, including their own integrity and the strength and integrity of our election process. I'm not sure they see meddling in the election by Russia as a problem, as long as it allows them to impose their own agenda. The buffoon said it himself, publicly, that he could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot someone, and they would let it happen. Money and personal gain trumps any sense of patriotism or loyalty, and I use that T word with its full implication, because he is the embodiment of money over integrity.

[William Thornton]

Well, since you're talking about that buffoon and walking filibuster chuck Schumer, I certainly agree with you.

[KeithE]

[William Thornton]

Didn't vote for him. He's the only prez we have at the moment....vastly superior to what we'd have with Hil.

[KeithE]

[William Thornton]

Hey...save your interrogatories for someone else. No one is obligated to jump through your hoops. You have a free run here to link at will.

I think it proves there is a God in heaven that you have the congressman you have...and that He has a sense of humor.

[Stephen Fox]

He was in Atlanta in 86. Has been on the case for a long time.

Any literate fair minded person can weigh, discern the difference between the political interpretation of events versus the mendacity of Trump and Company. It is sad Jim and Thornton cannot read the definitive political biography of Clinton, HRC, one dollar now at the dollar tree. Author has the definitive chapter on Benghazi. Does not equate with the deceit of Trump and Company.

Again Edsall had the goods on Adrian Rogers and Pressler and Ed Young in 86 and now he shines the light on Trump

[KeithE]

[William Thornton]

I was expecting a graph...got a pic. David used to use that one occasionally.

[KeithE]