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Parallel story of Pressler and Origins of Texas CLC

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:24 pm

http://christianethicstoday.com/wp/wp-c ... ersion.pdf

Scroll down to Bill Jones story on page 2

Similar story on Pressler and fundy politics and evolution in same period could be fascinating indeed
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Carlyle Marney stood in Pressler's way in Austin

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:56 pm

48-58

Pressler was in the State Senate in Austin for two of those years as an obstructionist re Brwon V Board

http://christianethicstoday.com/CETART/ ... &ArtID=370
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Pressler linked to Ted Cruz and ADF

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:00 pm

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Gendered inerrancy

Postby Stephen Fox » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:13 pm

There has been recent promotion of this book at abpnews. This interview is fascinating for the shwllowness of inerrancy as a takeover rubric as with other reasons and goes beyond to ask fascinating questions within the CBF as well

http://usreligion.blogspot.com/2015/02/ ... -with.html
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The world of Presler, Helms and Albert Lee Smith

Postby Stephen Fox » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:21 am

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Examining the world of the SBC Takeover

Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:31 pm

This mentality and world view were never far from Pressler, Helms, Adrian Rogers, McAteer and Albert Lee Smith. Without these convictions that SBC Takeover Leadership would have been less sure of themselves. Scary History:

http://religiondispatches.org/how-a-fri ... e-know-it/
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mERRITT OMITS pRESSLER

Postby Stephen Fox » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:21 am

Another W post story of the same day placed Pressler, named Pressler as key in the Cruz phenomenon. That ties him to Ed Young and Jim Deloach.

Merritt also made no reference to Wuthnow's Rough Country even though Criswell is in the air in almost everything Merritt says in this piece.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... in/421563/
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Evil

Postby Stephen Fox » Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:04 pm

Was reminded in the last few days from firsthand experience, witnesses and their testimonies of the "evil" at work in the takeover. Of course folks like Sandy will never be convinced and a lot of folks are no longer interested in refining the truth about the Takeover; for instance on this board only two folks at most were interested enough to real Molly Worthen and Sandy came to the wrong conclusions. And to my knowledge neither Baps Today nor CEToday has mentioned her work in two years.

I think Jonathan Merritt did an interview.

I hope my "witnesses" will soon come forth cause they have a strong and credible, another firsthand account of the Pressler Patterson agenda and tactics.
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Pressler's man in Arkansas

Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:23 pm

According to David Montoya in the late 80s, Floyd was Pressler's boy, his key young Adrian Rogers in Arkansas

https://baptistnews.com/ministry/organi ... arismatics

Floyd has unclear ties to Auburn Football coach Gus MalZahn and Lashlee
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Pressler in Koch bros Network

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:10 pm

All Pressler's networks to the Council for National Policy to the netherworld of Jesse Helms to the Oil industry which Houston contingent voted 90 percent for Ronald Reagan in 1980 places his squarely in the world of the Koch Bros most likely in the audience at the donors summits.

I will blog for context. Also listen later today online to NPR Fresh Air for interview with author Jane Mayer

http://www.npr.org/2016/01/19/463551038 ... cal-agenda
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Kochs, Rockefellers and the 1914 Ludlow Massacre

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:19 pm

newyorker.com has a great piece today by Jane Mayer on the Koch bros attempts to rebrand and Rehad their image. Fascinating reference in the New Yorker to Rockefeller and the Ludlow massacre.

But today's main point of interest is the NRP Fresh Air chat and the new book. Local juco I hope has it on order.
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Pressler's world

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:59 pm

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Nationwide Wednesday

Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:17 pm

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Here is the link, Pressler and Cruz via Fox on NPR

Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:29 pm

They spelled him Kressler in the the transcript. I was prepared to reference loaded rough country history on Pressler but they squeezed me tight, though Ornstein response was spot on

http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2016- ... re-primary
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Reinforcing my point on Pressler and the Bushes

Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:16 pm

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Pressler in the thick of Barton/Cruz Theocracy designs

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:32 pm

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Me and Moyers saw it coming. Pressler writ large

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:42 pm

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Course correction for Pressler/Helms legacy in NC

Postby Stephen Fox » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:49 am

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Helms Pressler "can not be sanitized"

Postby Stephen Fox » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:53 am

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Tim Lahaye; more proof the Pressler Adrian Rogers extremism

Postby Stephen Fox » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:25 pm

http://religiondispatches.org/tim-lahay ... ing-in-it/

In Pressler's inner circle with Helms and the Council for National Policy
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Phyliss Schlafly, key part of Helms, Pressler takeover of SB

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:19 pm

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Nelson Price "prayerfully" endorses Trump

Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:17 pm

http://www.northwestgeorgianews.com/rom ... 6bca4.html

I am writing a letter to RNT to Respond a longer version to appear on my blog shortly.

Price had the prayer breakfast sermon in January 1967 the day of Carter's inauguration. They had been prayer partners for 8 years
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Letter submitted to RNT re Nelson Price

Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:27 pm

[quote]Nelson Price is a piece of work. This former prayer partner of President Carter turned hardened apologist for the fundamentalist takeover of the Southern Baptist Convention attempting to artfully endorse Donald Trump for President as a prayerful concern comes close to blasphemy.


Price outlines several concerns tipping his conscience to the Trump column. What he fails to mention is the leadership he followed in the Baptist world, Pressler, Jesse Helms, Eagle Forum's Phyliss Schlafly and other residues of the John Birch Society and White Citizens Councils most folks now find anathema to a more perfect Union. Long Story short the library shelf the BX 6400's has twenty or more books demonstrating Price to not only be on the wrong side of Baptist history but Christian history as well.


And now he would have us believe the discredited world of Fox News has the high ground over Hillary Clinton. Well there has been an avalanche of opinion pieces in the Christian world in the last few days saying Price is wrong. I would point him to one in particular, that of Molly Worthen in the New York Times about the Moral MOndays Revival in the pivotal state of North Carolina. Worthen should be of special interest to Price as her book The Apostles of Reason a few years ago laid bare the sophomoric ideology of the Inerrancy of Scripture on which all of Price's so called "Biblical World View" is based.


In June of 1986 I walked across the hill at Dykes Creek Baptist Church to the Kingston Hwy to catch a ride with the pastor of Garden Lakes Baptist Church to attend the Southern Baptist Convention meeting in Atlanta. There at the bottom of the escalator of the World Congress Center I met my Dad talking to Wieuca Rd Baptist pastor Bill Self and Tom Edsall of the Washington Post. Edsall was waiting on me as we'd had several phone conversations before the Atlanta meeting.


Two years ago my friend Randall Balmer of Dartmouth published a religious political pilgrimage biography of President Carter, one I doubt Price has read. Here is a Balmer quote from a piece Edsall wrote three weeks ago in the NY Times about Baptist fundamentalists and others of Nelson Price's stripe navigating this Trump moment in America:


Quoting Balmer in Edsall piece:

The religious right was never about the advancement of biblical values. The modern, politically conservative evangelical movement we know is a movement rooted in the perpetuation of racial segregation, and its affiliation with the hard-right fringes of the conservative movement in the late 1970s produced a mutant form of evangelicalism inconsistent with the best traditions of evangelicalism itself. Since then, evangelicals have embraced increasingly secular positions divorced from any biblical grounding, and supporting Donald Trump represents the logical conclusion of that tragic aberration.


A longer version of this letter will appear soon at my blog, foxofbama.blogspot.com

Sincerely,

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