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Stephen Fox wrote:http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/on-the-frenzy-over-sidney-blumenthal/394406/
Sidney Blumenthal name has repeatedly come up in Ben Ghazi hearings.
He was near the phone when I called the Wash Post in 84 and I may have talked to him about the New Republic piece he wrote on Pressler and the fundamentalist takeover of the Southern Baptist Convention. His colleague Tom Edsall was in Atlanta for the 88 convention and I talked to Tom there after he met my Dad and Bill Self.
Blumenthal knew the underbelly of the SBC and what Paul Pressleer was up to. I still want to talk to Billl Moyers on Blumentha's insight into the 48 Senate race in Texas between LBJ and Coke Stevenson who ran with Pressler's crowd. Sidney corrected Robert Caro and I'm convinced unwittingly nailed the origins of Pressler's obsession with the SBC!
Stephen Fox wrote:http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... al/394406/
Sidney Blumenthal name has repeatedly come up in Ben Ghazi hearings.
He was near the phone when I called the Wash Post in 84 and I may have talked to him about the New Republic piece he wrote on Pressler and the fundamentalist takeover of the Southern Baptist Convention. His colleague Tom Edsall was in Atlanta for the 88 convention and I talked to Tom there after he met my Dad and Bill Self.
Blumenthal knew the underbelly of the SBC and what Paul Pressleer was up to. I still want to talk to Billl Moyers on Blumentha's insight into the 48 Senate race in Texas between LBJ and Coke Stevenson who ran with Pressler's crowd. Sidney corrected Robert Caro and I'm convinced unwittingly nailed the origins of Pressler's obsession with the SBC!
Ed Pettibone wrote:Ed; Steve, what is it you hope to accomplish with your constant harangue about Pressler's involvement in the SBC takeover?
*Those of us who opposed the takeover in real time know the Judge was the primary mover. To those who support the the so called resurgence he is a hero. Having read his account in (A Hill On Which To Die) I think he relishes the attention, so why feed his ego?
Stephen Fox wrote:I mainge Flick and Pettibone have similar reservations about Bill Moyers speaking this fall in tribute to James Dunn's legacy. There are new insights and revisions all along about what Pressler wrought, the latest being Robert Wuthnow's Rough Country. Flick and Pettibone have said their peace. A multitude of others including Moyers and myself continue to be amazed at how Pressler's poison continues to infect the national discourse.
Stephen Fox wrote:1I mainge Flick and Pettibone have similar reservations about Bill Moyers speaking this fall in tribute to James Dunn's legacy. There are new insights and revisions all along about what Pressler wrought, the latest being Robert Wuthnow's Rough Country. Flick and Pettibone have said their peace. 2A multitude of others including Moyers and myself 3continue to be amazed at how Pressler's poison continues to infect the national discourse.
David Flick wrote:As much as I intensely dislike the Pressler for what he did to the SBC, I'm not convinced that he's had much of an effect on the national discourse. He may be big in Texas politics and big in the hearts of fundamentalist Southern Baptists, but he's pretty much a non-entity outside those two factions. Other than your ranting and raving about him here on BL.Com, I've yet to hear his name mentioned a single time in the entire past year in national media. If he is even half as "poison" as you claim, surely to goodness the Lame Stream Democrat media would have destroyed him years ago. The very fact that the media ignores him tells me that he's a virtual nobody in the political scheme of things.
Stephen Fox wrote:It is disheartening however to see you boast in your ignorance and lack of insight re Pressler's legacy
Stephen Fox wrote:Pressler as a weather front, as a force of the darkness Marshall Frady speaks about in his intro to the bio of Billy Graham, about all the naivete and dimwitted "goodness" of those who packed all those mid century Crusades with the best of intentions; that seems to be the worldview Sandy is locked in and can't see the forest for the trees.
I would be surprised if the majority of the board of Christian Ethics Today doesn't applaud the substance of my insight on the ongoing relevance of Presslerism as a dark force in our country's politics and a betrayal of the best of the Baptist witness. I remain disappointed Flick and Pettybone get bogged down on the incidentals.
Sandy wrote:I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to those who responded to an invitation at a Billy Graham crusade as "drinking the kool-aide." That's a new one. So is calling those who became followers of Christ at one of his crusades "dimwitted."
It explains a lot, though.Indeed it does, Sandy.
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