Another SBC/Fox News Star

[Dave Roberts]

I am reminded again why I am no longer part of the SBC. Oh, sorry. I guess his inerrant Bible doesn't contain the Good Samaritan or the story of the Flight into Egypt.

[Haruo]

[Dave Roberts]

[Haruo]

[Tim Bonney]

[KeithE]

These children are mainly coming from Central America. So “securing our border” will leave them in Mexico and forget about them - some compassion.

We can accept the children and place in adoptive homes and/or we could send aid to the Central American countries - that would show compassion.

[Sandy]

Jeffress is on the wrong side of this issue. Before any Christian leader gets involved in helping make this political, they need to read Matthew 5-7, and do some serious meditation and prayer. We are frequently reminded, on this board, that no one Baptist speaks for another Baptist, but when it comes to Southern Baptists, there is a willingness to lump everyone together and allow one person to speak for all. Even Rachel Maddow mentioned that Southern Baptists were among the first on the scene to provide humanitarian assistance. So not every Southern Baptist thinks like Jeffress does.

http://sbtexas.com/evangelism/disaster- ... dercrisis/

We have an immigration "crisis" because the Republican administration under George W. Bush cut funding to the border patrol to give the wealthy a tax cut. So there were fewer personnel available for patrol, and the equipment they were using for surveillance could not be replaced fast enough to be effective. Nine million of the 12 million people in the US illegally came in during Bush's terms in office. The number has been reduced significantly during the Obama administration, and it wasn't a problem at all during the Clinton administration. And while the current wave of children coming north is a new twist in an old problem, the Obama administration actually has done something about it, while Bush ignored it. So when John McCain and John Boehner flap their lips and try to make this a political issue, they are at the very bottom of why the issue isn't getting resolved. Perhaps the one good thing that will come out of this situation is that it seems to finally have awakened a lot of Americans regarding the do-nothing Congress, and it is turning public opinion against Boehner and Republicans in the House.

If you look at other Bush era budget cuts, you will find how much money they robbed from the Veteran's Administration to give their rich buds a tax cut and finance a three trillion dollar fiasco in Iraq. Congress, led by the incompetent, spineless Boehner, who won't even stand for his own convictions, is the problem, not the President or his administration.

[Haruo]

I'm not sure how Jesus feels about a fence on the southern US border, but I'm sure he would have supported Egypt building one so his parents and he could have dealt with Herod thirty years earlier than they did. It would have made the infancy gospels so much more complete.

[KeithE]

[KeithE]

Here is a good summary of what happened at the Dallas Meeting with Obama re: chid immigration crisis from Ken Camp the Baptist Standard.



Note the down-to-humanitarian-business attitude of finding housing among most of the participants.

Exceptions:
- Ex-BL contributor now Fox News reporter Todd Starnes concerns about health at 2 facilities (Lackland AFB and Ft. Sill each capable of holding 1200 teenagers for an interim period) about 1/2 way into linked article (answered by several officials).
- Rick Perry’s complaint about Obama not going to the border
- Robert Jeffress who thinks Jesus would have built an impregnable fence.

Cons just can’t bring themselves to work with anyone outside of their cabal w/o criticism.

Obama is also asking Congress to change current rules (2008 Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act demanding court hearing before any deportation) as well as long term Immigration Reform.

[Sandy]

Bush did cut border patrol funding. It was part of the overall budget cutting that was done to give tax breaks to the wealthy. Proposals to increase their funding have been in front of Congress since at least 2009, though early on, the increases were tied to other legislation, and more recently, they've encountered the inaction of the do-nothing Boehner Congress.

The complaining about the President's not going to the border, and the criticism of his statement that it would have been just a "photo-op" is a demonstration of a complete lack of substance on this issue on the part of the GOP. It shouldn't be a political issue at all, but of course, with Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck essentially calling the shots in the Republican party these days, creating a hostile political atmosphere around everything, and using every issue as an attack launch is par for the course. This issue has the potential to shift the balance of power in Congress, and in state legislatures. It's accelerated Democratic party fundraising exponentially int he week or so that its been on the front burner.

[KeithE]