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Haruo wrote:"More directly confrontational" than what, Dave? Tell us what he said.
As an aside, in looking over the materials we picked up at the church, we see that CBF is explicitly anti-Calvinistic. Fwiw.
Mrs Haruo wrote::( Let me clarify something Haruo said about me looking for "results" in a church we visit. I have chronic pain and mobility problems. Getting up and getting out and about for me is a little more challenging than for most people. I have worn out knee joints which make it necessary for me to wear knee braces and use a wheeled walker to get around comfortably away from the house. Add bone spurs in the neck from an old injury, and you get one cranky old broad on the days when my pain level is up. As much as I enjoy the fellowship of other believers, if I am so distracted by pain by the time I get there that I get nothing out of the sermon and just want to get out and go home, I'm better off staying home with a radio preacher, a warm cat and a comfortable chair. There's a web page called "But you don't look sick!" that says it well. For some of us, it takes a lot of preparation and effort to look "normal".
Mrs Haruo wrote:"Normal" would being able to do things most people can do without thinking about it- like going down the stairs to the social hall at church without having to hang onto the rail and go down slowly, blocking traffic. Spending an hour or two at a big grocery store doing two week's worth of grocery shopping without being so tired you can't think straight by the time you get to the checkout line because you feel like someone shoved a knife under your kneecaps again.
The VA has helped with physical therapy- and set up an exercise program to help me strengthen what I have left, but the damage is done. It would be nice if I could just go into Schuck's Auto Parts and order up a new set of shock absorbers.
Timothy Bonney wrote:Haruo wrote:So it's not just the disabled but the dead who are inconvenienced by these design issues.
Well, the mourners for the dead. The steps are honestly dangerous with a casket.
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