Global Warming Thread XI

[Ed Edwards]

http://climateprogress.org/2010/12/12/n ... on-record/

of 12 Dec 2010 says this FACT

From Jan to Nov 2010, the average earth surface
temperature offset (difference) from the
1951-1980 baseline was 0.66°C ±0.05°C. The actual
temperature lies between +0.61°C and +0.62°C

1. This is not enough margin of confidence to
say that 2010 was the warmest year (and 2005 the
second warmest year).

2. However, there is no doubt that global warming
is going on.

the ±0.5 in 2010 is because of the pleminary
nature of the NASA report

3. Here are three reasons why the the 2010
figures (+0.66°C±0.05)
should be less than the 2005 figues (+0.62°C±0.01):

A. see the blue streak (1.6 to -1.0) from the
equator mark on the 2010 picture? That is the
start of a La Nina condition (which should cool
most of the world). In 2005 there is an light orange
streak in the East Pacific indication the start of
an El Nino condition (which should warm up
most of the world.

B. England was cooler in 2010 than was it was
in 2005 (sorry, the heat is bases on land
area, not population)

C. the temperature is indistinguishabe if it is one temp
(say 54.0°C) on your feet and 54.66°C on your hands).
An I assure you, nobody can physically experience the
global earth temperature as a person cannot be spread all over
the earth like that. The temperature difference is
discerned by human minds ONLY not by physical bodies.

So it sure makes some one look clueless who looks out
the window and sees a Meter of Snow (39 inches) and
says "where did global warming go". Global Warming
is still here. And the odds favor the statement being true:
"".

[Ed Edwards]

Brother Elder David: // My goodness, Ed!!!! So as
a denier of AGW, I'm one in the spirit with deniers
of God? Where, oh where, on earth did you come
up with that looney idea? Are you questioning
my salvation by that comment? Where have you ever
in your life seen a single word that I've
written which declared that I deny God?
Where have I ever stated that there is no God?
How am I corrupt? How have I done abominable
works? I find it amazing that you could
possibly draw such a conclusion? Yes,
I do deny the existence of anthropogenic
global warming (AGW), but how does that make
me a denier of God, corrupt, and a worker of abomination? \\

Ah, good exercise, jumping to conclusions.

I call you "Elder Brother" cause I recognize your
salvation by your works which I know.
However, what you say here in this quoted paragraph shows proof positive
that you are are denying Global Warming and that humans
caused the recent (last 100 years or so)
Global Warming with thier ruining the earth
scurring about all over the place making tire tracks.

// I'm one in the spirit with deniers of God? \\

I may have said that. It is certainly true when you deny
the facts of GW and the 95% chance that at least
half of the Global Warming is human caused.
Your spirit when you deny AGW is the same spirit that causes
people to deny God. That spirit is the same one that makes
people deny that a small group of Muslim extream terrorists
made the US Government to look the fool on 11 Sept 2001.

// Where have you ever
in your life seen a single word that I've
written which declared that I deny God? \\

Here you are saying things I did not claim, did not say,
did not think, did not in any way imply. But you might
check the path you walk, just as a general principle -
God's Word is way sharper than any two-eged sword
and can reveal things that I probably have no knowledge of.

// Where have I ever stated that there is no God? \\

I did not say you did. Somone else may have told you that,
not me.

// Yes,
I do deny the existence of anthropogenic
global warming (AGW), but how does that make
me a denier of God, corrupt, and a worker of abomination? \\

I did not say it did. I also did not say that David wrote the
Psalm, the Bible said that.

BTW, I think December 2010
will be in the top ten warmest Decembers in
this Millennium. Tee hee, this is true, for it will be
the tenth December in the period 2001-3000, the current Millennium

I also think December 2010 will be in the top ten warmest
years for which we have records, that is for total earth
average for the whole month. But that is an opinion, and
opinions will naturally vary, and this is good.

[David Flick]

[Ed Edwards]

Merry Christmas!

[KeithE]

[David Flick]

[Ed Edwards]

[Ed Edwards]

Sorry there, I cannot edit with the Baptistlive.com editor past a certain point.
I cannot use my editor-of-choice to post graphs. So I am stuck with short
choppy posts.

Anway, If we took say sixty BL members and guessed what the next 30 months
of data is going to be, we could average that. The average opinion would be
more correct than at least half the individual (97% likely) or possibly 97% of the
opinions (4% likely).

And a strange thing about averaging many readings, the more the merrier -
the more readings taken, the more likely the average will be correct..

I am reasonably sure that at the scale above, that the 'real temperature average
would NOT be noticably different from the shown temperature average. 'Noticably
Different' here means: cannot be seen by the untrained eye.'

[KeithE]

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

[KeithE]

[David Flick]

[Ed Pettibone]

[Jim]

I made a check to see how the actual data applied to Cancun. From 30 November to 12 December, about the tenure of the whole clambake, the temperature every day was either a new record for the low reading or equal to the existing record for the low – every day. A sort of review: .

[Ed Edwards]

Tee Hee! ELder Bro. David, A quote you made came from Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
The temp there was -11°C. The Average temp in Decembers in Calgary is -1°C high and
-13°C low. The temperature in Calgary was average today.


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[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[KeithE]

[Ed Edwards]