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Dwight McKissic Endorses Black SBC Prez

Postby Big Daddy Weaver » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:25 pm

In this poorly-written blog post, Dwight McKissic does the following:

Endorses Fred Luter SBC President. Luter is one of the few visible African-Americans in SBC life.

**Has Luter announced his candidacy? If so, I missed it. Or is McKissic planning to nominate Luter? Or is McKissic just suggesting that Luter would make a great president? It's unclear to me.

Endorses Troy Gramlin as President of SBC Pastor's Conference

Accuses folks of misrepresenting Troy Gramlin's views on women-in-ministry

**Gramlin is in a sticky place here. He has a female on staff with the title of "Pastor" who preaches...

Challenges Peter Lumpkins to a Debate: Anytime Any Place


**Let's hope that McKissic is a better debater than he is a writer. This blog post is messy.

Calls on Hunt, Patterson, Mohler, Akin to help Southern Baptists repent and turn from their wicked ways


McKissic's post is below in full. $5 says that this post gets removed pretty soon for editing purposes:

THE NEED FOR A GREAT REPENTENCE RESURGENCE

BY

WILLIAM DWIGHT MCKISSIC, SR.

Can the Southern Baptist Convention experience a Great Commission Resurgencewithout first engaging in a Great Repentance Resurgence? In order for the SBC toexperience a Great Commission Resurgence her leadership will need to reflectrepresentatives of the people groups that she hopes to reach. Electing Fred Luter as

president of the convention would give the GCR a great boost and make the statementthat the SBC is serious about reaching all of the people groups in the world. PaigePatterson is referenced in the book, UNEASY IN BABYLON (p.270, published in 2002),as supporting the idea of an African American president of the SBC by 2005. I know forcertain that this is the heart of Dr. Patterson to see an African American President of theSBC. WHY NOT NOW? WHY NOT FRED LUTER?

Troy Gramlin pastor’s the Flamingo Road Baptist Church in South Florida. TheFlamingo Road Church has baptized 5,015 in the last five years, led the state of Florida inbaptisms for the past four years and average 11,000 people attending worship services onthe weekend. What a great example of a Great Commission Pastor. He’s the onlyannounced candidate for the president of the SBC Pastor’s conference as of this writing,and I plan to enthusiastically vote for him.

I pray that Southern Baptist pastors will not be distracted by those who wantto derail Gramlin’s election as president of the pastor’s conference by those who aremisrepresenting and distorting his views on women in ministry. I challenge PeterLumpkins -Gramlins most vocal critic- to a debate anytime and any place defending thefact that Gramlins views on women in ministry are not in violation of theB, F, and M 2000, or the Bible. Furthermore, his views are in keeping with the SandyCreek tradition in Baptist Life. Whether Gramlin wins or loses the presidency of thepastor’s conference, he’s committed to increasing his financial commitment to the

Cooperative Program. The election of Luter and Gramling would positively change the

image of the SBC and enhance our Great Commission efforts.

The primary reason that I’m addressing this subject is because I also want toappeal to the patriarchs of our convention (Johnny Hunt, Paige Patterson, Al Mohler,Danny Akin, Ronnie Floyd, Frank Page and others), to call a solemn assembly and toinvite Southern Baptists to pray, seek God’s face, repent and turn from our wicked ways.

Joel 1:13-15 reads,

Gird yourselves and lament, you priest;

Wail, you who minister before the alter;

Come, lie all night in sackcloth,

You who minister to my God;

For the grain offering and the drink offering

Are withheld from the house of your God

Consecrate a fast

Call a sacred assembly;

Gather the elders

And all the inhabitants of the Lord your God

Into the house of the Lord your God

And cry out to the Lord

Alas for the day!

For the day of the Lord is at hand;

It shall come as destruction from the Almighty

The SBC must repent of systemic, institutionalized, and historic negative attitudestoward women, race, and dissenters. When we repent of our sins and turn from ourwicked ways, then God will forgive our sins and heal our convention and anoint us to goforth with power in carrying out the Great Commission. In three separate post I willaddress SBC ATTITUDES TOWARD WOMEN, RACE AND DISSENTERS INBAPTIST LIFE AND DOCUMENT AND DELINIATE WHY CORPORATEREPENTENCE IS ABSOLUTLEY NECESSARY FOR RESTORATION, RENEWALAND RESURGENCE IN BAPTIST LIFE.
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I got No Dawg in this Hunt

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:30 pm

But I'm with him on the Peter Lumpkins debate thing

I wonder what MKissic thinks about SBC deacons who refer to President Obama as "The Tragic Negro?"

Should their be a resolution on such in Orlando??
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Re: Dwight McKissic Endorses Black SBC Prez

Postby Haruo » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:59 pm

Well, it is, I mean, you think of the Hebrew Resurgence under Abram, or the Israelite Resurgence under Joshua, or the Judaic Resurgence under Ezra... it's everywhere. The Edomite Resurgence under the Herods, the Roman Resurgence under Vespasian, the Bestial Resurgence in Revelations...
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Re: Dwight McKissic Endorses Black SBC Prez

Postby David Flick » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:28 am

Haruo wrote:Well, it is, I mean, you think of the Hebrew Resurgence under Abram, or the Israelite Resurgence under Joshua, or the Judaic Resurgence under Ezra... it's everywhere. The Edomite Resurgence under the Herods, the Roman Resurgence under Vespasian, the Bestial Resurgence in Revelations...

Haruo, I don't think anyone can honestly declare that the so-called "Conservative Resurgence" was a "resurgence." It's virtually impossible to "resurge" to something that didn't exist at a prior time in history. The definition of the word "resurge" is "to rise again, appear again."

The SBC fundamentalists are fooling themselves if they believe what occurred, beginning in June of '79 in Houston, was a "resurgence." In reality, that which the fundamentalists call a conservative resurgence was fundamentalist insurgence. With the election of Adrian Rogers in 1979, the fundamentalists pillaged the denomination and turned a basically conservative denomination into a fundamentalist denomination. They pillaged the six seminaries, denominational agencies, and all but two of the major SBC state conventions. In the two states where the fundamentalists were unsuccessful in taking control, they created fundamentalist conventions. Think Southern Baptist of Texas Convention and SBC of Virginia.

Not only did they pillage the seminaries and state conventions, they rewrote the 63BF&M and turned it into a creed (2KBF&M). With the newly created creed, they marginalized and/or excluded all Southern Baptists who spoke against it or refused to sign it. I know whereof I speak, having been marginalized and excluded myself. With the new creed, they fired seminary professors, missionaries, and denominational employees. With the new creed, they created a new doctrine (inerrancy of the Bible) and codified the subservience of females. Prior to 1979, Southern Baptists were generally conservative. After 1979, Southern Baptists became solidly fundamentalist. In some states and localities, Southern Baptists became radically fundamentalist.

The Southern Baptist Convention as it now exists, did not exist prior to the takeover movement of Criswell, Pressler, Patterson, et. al. As such, the the term, "Conservative Resurgence," is the biggest misnomer in the history of the denomination. There was no conservative resurgence. But there was a fundamentalist insurgence...
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Re: Dwight McKissic Endorses Black SBC Prez

Postby georgefrink » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:12 pm

Ok. So the odds makers here all agree that there is zero (0) chance McKissic's recommendations will be followed?
Yet that the Great Repentance Resurgence has at least as much chance of passage as the Great Commission Resurgence?
Please: All answer at once.
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McKissic says SBC Needs to Repent

Postby Stephen Fox » Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:30 am

www.abpnews.com has a story up today where the following is said:

McKissic said he does not believe Gramling's views on women in ministry fall beyond parameters of the SBC's 2000 revision of its doctrinal statement, the Baptist Faith and Message, but he contends that more is at stake than personalities.

"The SBC must repent of systemic, institutionalized and historic negative attitudes toward women, race and dissenters," he wrote. "When we repent of our sins and turn from our wicked ways, then God will forgive our sins and heal our convention and anoint us to go forth with power in carrying out the Great Commission."
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