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SBC Deacon Gov Bentley "Crowing"; Eunie Smith's Bama Legacy

Postby Stephen Fox » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:16 pm

In an email from an attorney in Bham today read nationally on NPR's Talk of the Nation great insight into Bama Judge Marsha Blackburn's ruling.
There were demonstrations against her ruling at the campusses of UAB and UBama, Tuscaloosa. I am looking to see what Hugo Black's Grandson, Stephen, an Ethics Proff, Yale Law and Emory Div grad says about the matter
Joe Godfrey, who had lunch with Judge Pressler and Judge Roy Moore in Montgomery in April 2002 told me June 27 at Highlands UMC in Bham it Albert Lee Smith's widow Eunie, activist with the Eagle Forum and Bama Tea Party, whose Husband was a nightmare for James Dunn as Aaron Weaver will report; Eunie Smith was a driving force whispering in the ear of the Bama legislature to push Bama's Immigration bill through.
Whether public school teachers in Alabama will urge Rick Lance and Bob Terry to distinguish themselves from Eunie Smith and Scott Beason of Steve Gaines, FBC Gardendale remains to be seen.

You can hear the Bham atty email at this link:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... nd-privacy

And here is Robert Parham and staff's report with several sterling links including the front page story from Htimes and Bham News today in Bama

http://www.ethicsdaily.com/federal-judg ... -cms-18595
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Meanwhile Bishop Willimon and the UMC....

Postby Stephen Fox » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:35 pm

http://willimon.blogspot.com/2011/09/dream-sabbath.html

How will Bob Terry and Jennifer Rash of the Alabama Baptists, and Rick Lance, Gov Bentley's former pastor, navigate between Eunie Smith and Bishop Willimon
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From Aug 17 Washington Post

Postby Stephen Fox » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:19 pm

Perhaps the most obnoxious provision of the law is its requirement that public schools confirm all students’ immigration status and report those who lack proper documents to school officials. State lawmakers and Alabama Attorney General Luther Strange insist this would not interfere with the education of undocumented students, whose right to attend public schools was affirmed by the Supreme Court almost 30 years ago. But whom are they kidding? The measure is meant to frighten youngsters and their parents and will have precisely that effect.

The Obama administration has joined civil rights and church groups in challenging the law’s constitutionality. No matter how the court case comes out, the law is likely to have the intended effect of scaring tens of thousands of undocumented residents — and the unintended one of cementing Alabama’s reputation as a state where the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.’s work is unfinished.


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Sept 29 NPR Talk of Nation Email from Bham atty

Postby Stephen Fox » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:41 pm

CONAN: It's interesting, here's an email we have from an attorney in Birmingham who asked that we not use his name because he has cases pending before Judge Blackburn, the judge who decided the Alabama immigration case yesterday:

I'm very disheartened by the spin put on yesterday's outcome, including by NPR. The issue is whether preliminary injunctions would be ordered on the various provisions of Alabama's HB56. Judge Blackburn, an unabashed conservative, joined the enforcement of several of the more odious provisions of HB56, including notably Section 13, which prohibited persons from shielding, hiding or transporting undocumented aliens.

Other sections were shut down by Judge Blackburn, too, and yes, many draconian parts were left untouched. But this is just the beginning stage of this litigation, and the media spin that this was a big victory for proponents of this law, taking its cue from Governor Bentley's crowing, does a disservice to the truth of the matter.

And, well, Neal Katyal, I was just wondering if you had a comment on that.

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How it plays in Crossville, Alabama

Postby Stephen Fox » Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:48 pm

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ABP on Marshall County, Alabama

Postby Stephen Fox » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:41 pm

My attempted comment on the piece:

http://www.abpnews.com/content/view/6776/53/

The state Representative for Marshall and southern parts of Dekalb County Al was quoted at length in the Sept 29 Ft. Payne Times Journal. The GOP Rep is active member of a UMC church in Albertville and take issue with Bishop Willimon on this matter. His comments are seen at Willimon's Peculiar Prophet Blog where Willimon is endorsing the Dream Sabbath for UMC churches in North Alabama, a strong look toward the Dream Act.
My friend Joe Bob Mizzell is out to lunch. With other leaders in the SBC in Bama he is quiet on the role Albert Lee Smith's widow Eunie and her tea party played in the creation of this Immigration bill.
Mizzell and Rick Lance could take a strong look at Dianne Wintson's piece on the Tea Party and Father Coughlin couple days ago at religiondispatches.org for some framework from on high from which to revamp their thinking on this matter according to the Gospel of Jesus Christ as revealed in the Civil Rights Movement in their state, and current narratives now being written and lived out in their midst.
Take a look at SBC trends of baptistlife.com/forum for further explorations of these matters.
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Kobach of Kansas and the World of Eunie Smith

Postby Stephen Fox » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:19 pm

http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript ... =140927115

Kobach worked with Atty Gen Aschcroft in the Bush 43 administration. He is highly paid and tea party politically motivated. Every indication is Eunie Smith is hardwired into his network and Rick Lance as the Sand Mtn Reporter reports is silent and out to lunch on the whole charade.
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Getting word to Adrian's son, David Rogers

Postby Stephen Fox » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:32 pm

David Rogers looks at church and politics in an interesting freighted blog few days ago at SBC Impact. See the link and my response below

http://sbcimpact.org/2011/08/23/8638/
David:

I had about a 15 minute conversation with a staffer with BGEA, Billy Graham headquarters in Charlotte this morning about what is happening in Alabama with Deacon Gov Bentley and Eunie Smith of the Eagle Forum's "Draconian" immigration law to use the word of former Duke Chaplain and Now UMC North Alabama Bishop Will Willimon.
Eunie, her Eagle Forum and late husband Albert Lee Smith worked in sync with your late father in the SBC takeover. That is a matter of history.
And Alliance Defense Fund's Charles Pickering of Mississippi was generally in your Dad's corner on the Peace Committee and campaign against the Baptist Joint Committee for Public Affairs.
Upshot real life drama is yesterday in a story in the Bham News, your Dad's successor Steve Gaines former Church was the location of an 80 participant protest against FBC Gardendale's Scott Beason, Eunie Smith's man in the State Senate.
Mark Noll had a fascinating review in the June 6 New Republic print issue this year focussing on the religious political world view of the likes of Ed McAteer and others that shaped your Father's time and circumstances.
I commend it and the books read to both you and John Piper. And I would hope you would follow the discussion on Alabama Immigration law at SBC Trends of Baptistlife.com/forums
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Alabama Schools as heard on NPR nationally this morning

Postby Stephen Fox » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:40 pm

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Eunie Smith in North Carolina

Postby Stephen Fox » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:34 pm

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011 ... ntPage=all

Don't know if you can blame all this on her and Jesse Helms and tie it to the SBC Takeover, but it sure smells like em
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Calvary Baptists Rachel Johnson

Postby Stephen Fox » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:57 pm

Kudos to JPierce for publishing this article in October Baptists Today.

And check the American Values site. Strong lineup

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rachel-jo ... 31924.html
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Bama hour long focus of NPR

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:32 pm

I was on hold for 45 minutes but they never took my call

May comment at website:

http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2011- ... ion?page=1

Here is my comment just posted at the website, comment circa 38

I do hope the DRShow comes back to Alabama for hour long discussion soon. I suggest UMC Bishop Willimon, the former Chaplain at Duke, Rachel Johnson of American Values and Bama Gov Bentley's pastor Rick Lance as panelists or the Alabama Catholic Bishop; and or UVA professor Robert Marsh, native Mississippian and Bonhoeffer scholar who is well tuned to Baptists fretful turning away historically when a much needed plumbline for character is needed

At Willimon's Peculiar Prophet Blog he is pushing for Dream Sabbath across Methodist Churches in North Alabama. Will be a Sunday focussing on the Dream Act for promising Hispanic Students who have been grand citizens in the state for some time.

The Religious quotient of this matter has been fascinating indeed. The State Representative who is member of a Methodist Church in Albertville has taken issue with Bishop Willimon in the Press--see Willimon's blog. And reputedely many students from Birmingham Southern College who protested at State Senator Scott Beason's Gardendale Baptist are products of churches in North Alabama.

While Rachel Johnson has a commendation of sorts for the national Southern Baptist Convention Resolution last summer, in the state, the SBC leadership has been tepid or out to lunch. See Abpnews.com for that story.

Meanwhile Deacon Gov Bentley seems to have been driven to this law by Tea Party fundamentalists. One in particular, Eunie Smith of the State's Eagle Forum, widow of the late Bircher Albert Lee Smith has been most sinister. Her roots are in the White Citizens Council margins of Bull Connors day, and with her husband she was active in the national network of Jesse Helms and Ed McAteer to turn Southern Baptists toward the far right.

One fellow troubled without apparent rudder in the mess in Alabama is former state SBC president Joe Godfrey. Groomed in the ideology of Judge Roy Moore, his inclinations are more toward George Wallace of the 60's than light of Judge Frank Johnson; more like Charles Pickering of the Allied Defense Fund, than Auburn Baptist Pulitzer nominee Wayne Flynt, often called the conscience of the state. Denominational struggles have consequences and Alabama shows it now.

Stories and angles abound.

Hope to see much more spotlight on Alabama as the state once again in our nations history takes a strong look in the mirror at it soul.

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731 comments on Albertville, Al in NY Times

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:05 pm

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Comment from Gadsden Al native in NY Times

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:12 pm

C.B.Charlotte, NCOctober 5th, 201112:23 pmI am a native of Gadsden, Al, just 20 miles or so down Sand Mountain from Albertville. To have passed this law simply shows how dense our Republican lead State House is today. Albertville, and unfortunately many other communities in our state will soon know the impact economically the absence of these people will have where it counts- the pocketbook. I have been beyond dismayed to see a sitting District Court Judge punt on such an important issue as this one. I have felt so very close to tears, too, because this has just given my home state, one which I do love, just another black eye on a national and even global level.

There are truly good, kind people that don't feel as much hate and animosity as this law indicates exists in Alabama. How any siting elected politician in the state, be it the cheap stunt, I won't take a salary until every Alabamian has a job governor to the state legislators that crafted and successfully got this law passed could think that there was a line full of unemployed people in Alabama just waiting for the chance to go do the back breaking work of picking tomatoes on Chandler Mountain, potatoes in Cullman County or wanting to work the lines in chicken plants across the state. Congratulations, Montgomery, for once again cutting Alabama's nose off to spite its face.
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In the legal arena of the discussion

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:50 pm

I offered this comment to NY Times:

Rachel Johnson wrote a piece for Huffington Post a few weeks ago that has been published in the October issue of the progressive Baptist Monthly Baptists Today.
My sense is the likes of Hugo Blacks Grandson, Stephen, whose law firm in Birmingham is siding with United Methodists Bishop Willimon in this morass, and Grand Judge Frank Johnson were he with us today, would come down on the side of Ms. Johnson's ideas of redemptive justice.
As the religious community in the state seeks further remedy in the courts it will be interesting to see if the Baptist Joint Committee takes up the immigration cause; and how that may differ from the thinking of the Allied Defense Fund in which Bush 43 Judicial Nominee Charles Pickering holds great sway.


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Smoking Gun in Sunday Bama Papers

Postby Stephen Fox » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:15 am

Key story on Bama Immigration in Sunday October 16 Mobile Press Register and Birmingham News.
Eagle Forums's Eunie Smith and her husband have a history of creating havoc in the Southern Baptist Convention in the 80's and now in this state's immigration bill.
In March of 93 Albert Lee Smith arranged an inquisition of then Samford President Tom Corts. They went after novelist Vicki Covington as well.
What a witness. How does Rick Lance and the State Board of Missions of the BAma Baptist Convention distinguish itself from Albert Lee and Eunie Smith?

Kobach got his introduction to Alabama politics in 2007, through a conference hosted in Birmingham by the Eagle Forum of Alabama, a conservative think tank. There, he met state Sen. Scott Beason, R-Gardendale, who said the two developed a relationship that centered on their shared concerns about the nation’s immigration policy.

Beason, who carried the immigration bill in the Alabama Senate, said he leaned heavily on Kobach to help write it.

"I started gathering copies of immigration laws from across the country late last year, and literally spent days and days reviewing them in December," Beason said.

Kobach, he said, was instrumental in helping to weed out provisions that would be unlikely to meet approval by the courts, and in refining the bill’s language to keep it consistent with federal law.

"No question, he played a very big role," Beason said Friday. "His level of expertise was outstanding."

Final revisions to the bill, Kobach said, were made on a hunting trip to Gardner, Kan., and emailed to Beason and Hammon from his laptop computer.

"A bad day for turkeys turned out to be a good day for constitutional law," he said.



From

http://blog.al.com/live/2011/10/kris_ko ... yer_1.html
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Hushpuppies in the Bathtub

Postby Stephen Fox » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:27 am

Wayne Flynt nails it yesterday in Viewpoints Bham News


they identified the culprit as the Legislature's new immigration law.

I was not surprised. Turning a problem over to the Alabama Legislature to solve is like placing a 2-year-old in charge of a preschool. Here is a list of problems our Legislature did not solve: a racist constitution conceived in the violence and political corruption of Reconstruction; reapportionment of the Legislature every 10 years as required in that document; taxes that take a higher percentage of income from the poor than from the rich; perpetually underfunded public schools; an inhumane mental health system; extending the right to vote to women and African-Americans; keeping Jefferson County financially solvent. One Alabama-born federal judge described such inaction as the "punt Bama syndrome," where legislators unwilling to solve the state's problems pass them off to federal courts.

Of course, anyone with walking-around sense knows that American immigration policy is broken. Historically, we have tolerated some level of illegal immigration from Ireland, Italy, China or elsewhere. If such immigrants worked hard at menial jobs, committed no crimes and conducted themselves respectably, Congress periodically granted them amnesty. The result was a steady infusion of hard-working, risk-taking newcomers.

After 9/11, all that changed, and something needs to be done. But expecting Alabama's Legislature to fix a national problem is like going fishing in your bathtub. Don't cook the hushpuppies first. Notable moments when our Legislature was a national trendsetter include 1955 when we led the "massive resistance" movement against desegregation and December 1860 when we were in the vanguard of secession.

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Link to Wayne Flynt's Hushpuppy piece

Postby Stephen Fox » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:34 am

http://blog.al.com/birmingham-news-comm ... -ille.html

For any of you unfamiliar with Flynt's recent book, Keeping the Faith is a must read of this Pulitzer nominee whose History of Alabama Baptists is considered one of the best in its field.

Or if you are just interested in the Bobby Bowden era of Auburn Football, Flynt's forty pages therein is scorching as his Hushpuppies and Immigration bill metaphor shouts out.

Make that Terry Bowden.
In Public forums realm at this site there is discussion of Taylor Branch and football. Take those comments there please as this site should focus on the life and times of Eunie Smith and her Bama Eagle Forum
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Kris Kobach; letter in Bham News

Postby Stephen Fox » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:59 am

This letter writer in the Oct 20 Bham News nails the world of Eunie Smith and the legacy of her Bircher, shadowy world of her White citizen Council Husband. AS a Matter of Conscience I hope the Alabama Baptist Convention has the Integrity to speak to this this ongoing stain on their witness:

The portrait of Kris Kobach, co-author of the anti-immigration law roiling our state, was superb ("Alien law author proud of success," Sunday). What comes through so vividly are the contrasts.

This man of enormous talent, schooled at Harvard and Yale, an Eagle Scout, found himself sitting in a duck blind. He had his gun, but there were no ducks to kill. So, he pulled out his laptop and sought some human targets, legally, of course.

The history of all societies shows that in times of political and economic uncertainty, we gravitate toward anger, vindictiveness and hatred. It's a relief that very few express those feelings violently or in illegal ways.

But if someone serves up a "safe" (weak) target and a legal mechanism for expressing all our rage, people embrace it. It's unlikely a battle over who gets to pick tomatoes will produce a better future for Alabama.

And, as Rabbi Johnathan Miller points out so well ("History and the Alabama exiles," Viewpoints, Sunday), we defy biblical injunctions when we threaten the stranger. The "voluntary" departure of so many immigrants (authorized and unauthorized), in haste and in fear, reflects poorly on us.

As a child of refugees, it makes me shudder. If only Kobach could had killed a few ducks instead.

Stefan G. Kertesz

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Beason's Defense

Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:07 pm

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Gov Bentley Defends himself, Oct 23 Bham News

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Jesus Leaving Alabama; Moving to Michigan

Postby Stephen Fox » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:21 pm

So says this Jewish Rabbi. I was in room with him Feb 24, 2006 while the Mayor and his Librarian were deciding my fate in Collinsville, Alabama
I met Artur Davis for the first time that evening; Cliff Vaughn's sister was on panel with Miller and Jim Evans and Mike Shaw

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Re: Jesus Leaving Alabama; Moving to Michigan

Postby Ed Pettibone » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:07 pm

Stephen Fox wrote:So says this Jewish Rabbi. I was in room with him Feb 24, 2006 while the Mayor and his Librarian were deciding my fate in Collinsville, Alabama
I met Artur Davis for the first time that evening; Cliff Vaughn's sister was on panel with Miller and Jim Evans and Mike Shaw

http://blog.al.com/birmingham-news-comm ... e_ala.html


Ed: Steve, why in the world would they go to Michigan which with 11.1% unemployment is the third highest rate in the U.S. or 48th in employment.
Perhaps they should go to North Dakota . Of course the growing season is pretty short in N.D. with only a 3.5 Unemployed rate, so maybe they would want to consider VA. at 6.5 or Oklahoma at 5.9 both better than Alabama's 9,8 .


Unemployment Rates for States
Monthly Rankings
Seasonally Adjusted
Sept. 2011p
Rank State Rate

1 NORTH DAKOTA 3.5
2 NEBRASKA 4.2
3 SOUTH DAKOTA 4.6
4 NEW HAMPSHIRE 5.4
5 VERMONT 5.8
5 WYOMING 5.8
7 OKLAHOMA 5.9
8 IOWA 6.0
9 HAWAII 6.4
10 VIRGINIA 6.5
11 NEW MEXICO 6.6
12 KANSAS 6.7
13 LOUISIANA 6.9
13 MINNESOTA 6.9
15 MASSACHUSETTS 7.3
16 MARYLAND 7.4
16 UTAH 7.4
18 MAINE 7.5
19 ALASKA 7.6
20 MONTANA 7.7
21 WISCONSIN 7.8
22 NEW YORK 8.0
23 DELAWARE 8.1
24 WEST VIRGINIA 8.2
25 ARKANSAS 8.3
25 COLORADO 8.3
25 PENNSYLVANIA 8.3
28 TEXAS 8.5
29 MISSOURI 8.7
30 CONNECTICUT 8.9
30 INDIANA 8.9
32 IDAHO 9.0
33 ARIZONA 9.1
33 OHIO 9.1
33 WASHINGTON 9.1
36 NEW JERSEY 9.2
37 OREGON 9.6
38 KENTUCKY 9.7
39 ALABAMA 9.8
39 TENNESSEE 9.8
41 ILLINOIS 10.0
42 GEORGIA 10.3
43 NORTH CAROLINA 10.5
43 RHODE ISLAND 10.5
45 FLORIDA 10.6
45 MISSISSIPPI 10.6
47 SOUTH CAROLINA 11.0
48 DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 11.1
48 MICHIGAN 11.1
50 CALIFORNIA 11.9
51 NEVADA 13.4
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NY Times Standing in State House Door

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:04 pm

Bham News in oped day took the NY Times position against Strange on this matter. Gov Bentley was on front Page.

Rick Lance remains silent.
Bama Baptist Convention meets in about ten days

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/opini ... -door.html
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Condi Rice spins Eunie's Law

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