Re: Frank Page's SBC: Eisenhower or Demint Republicans
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:02 pm
Gene, if my memory is accurate, CBS news reported the other night that 70% of welfare recipients are white. I don't know if they mentioned what percent were children. I believe that a large percentage are children, which means they have no control over leaving welfare. The stereotype of most being black is far from true.
I had to chuckle when you said "Don't try to judge and describe everything only on your local experience!" and then began to describe your own experience...again. Ed has also laid out his experience with the system, and I find his experiences as credible as yours. I don't doubt that they are facts to you, but that doesn't make them any more than local examples. It doesn't prove any of your allegations are similar for the whole country. Can you find studies that prove most churches conduct seminars on how to abuse welfare, for example? I've never heard of that. I assume you've attended one or talked to those who have. Do you have the number of those being conducted each week in your area? I also assume you mean they are teaching people how to game the system, as opposed to explaining benefits available to those who are eligible for help and not receiving it.
Much of your post sounded like typical Southern stereotyping to me. I've heard similar things from white southerners all my life. If you can document with sources that would be appreciated. I'm sure there have been any number of studies done on the welfare system, its recipients, and its abuses, as well as the ways people become trapped in the system and are penalized financially for trying to leave it behind.
Neil
I had to chuckle when you said "Don't try to judge and describe everything only on your local experience!" and then began to describe your own experience...again. Ed has also laid out his experience with the system, and I find his experiences as credible as yours. I don't doubt that they are facts to you, but that doesn't make them any more than local examples. It doesn't prove any of your allegations are similar for the whole country. Can you find studies that prove most churches conduct seminars on how to abuse welfare, for example? I've never heard of that. I assume you've attended one or talked to those who have. Do you have the number of those being conducted each week in your area? I also assume you mean they are teaching people how to game the system, as opposed to explaining benefits available to those who are eligible for help and not receiving it.
Much of your post sounded like typical Southern stereotyping to me. I've heard similar things from white southerners all my life. If you can document with sources that would be appreciated. I'm sure there have been any number of studies done on the welfare system, its recipients, and its abuses, as well as the ways people become trapped in the system and are penalized financially for trying to leave it behind.
Neil