God Ordained the Fundy Takeover of the SBC

[Tim Bonney]

Big Daddy, I'm not sure that the decline in the mainline denominations has had as much to do with fundamentalists leaving (though I know that happens) as it has had to do with mainline denominations not doing the best job of engaged the changes in the culture. Frankly I think the same problem is catching up with evangelical denominations as well. Most congregations are more interested in keeping things the same than they are in reaching new people.

As to "creeping liberalism" Sandy, any time I hear a conservative southern Baptist talk about the need for the "resurgence" because the SBC was sliding "liberal" just makes me want to laugh. I remember one news reporting in the early days of the takeover who was from a non-SBC background say something like "From the outside it looks like one group of conservatives fighting with another group of conservatives over which of them is the most conservative."

And that is pretty much what it looks like from outside of the SBC. I've yet to see an moderate SBCer who was active during the takeover that I honestly believe was actually a "liberal" unless you define "liberal" as being anyone who isn't a fundamentalist.

[Tim Bonney]

Big Daddy, I'm not sure that the decline in the mainline denominations has had as much to do with fundamentalists leaving (though I know that happens) as it has had to do with mainline denominations not doing the best job of engaged the changes in the culture. Frankly I think the same problem is catching up with evangelical denominations as well. Most congregations are more interested in keeping things the same than they are in reaching new people.

As to "creeping liberalism" Sandy, any time I hear a conservative southern Baptist talk about the need for the "resurgence" because the SBC was sliding "liberal" just makes me want to laugh. I remember one news reporting in the early days of the takeover who was from a non-SBC background say something like "From the outside it looks like one group of conservatives fighting with another group of conservatives over which of them is the most conservative."

And that is pretty much what it looks like from outside of the SBC. I've yet to see an moderate SBCer who was active during the takeover that I honestly believe was actually a "liberal" unless you define "liberal" as being anyone who isn't a fundamentalist.

[Big Daddy Weaver]

[Stephen Fox]

BDidd:

I copy and pasted your fine Olson remarks including Calvin on the Holy Spirit to the topic at www.sbcvoices.com
It is causing a stir just five minutes in.
Some of you may want to follow it there.

[Stephen Fox]

http://sbcvoices.com/quarreling-amongst-us/

Some of you may want to monitor this conversation at The Voices. I have made a strong statement there, the 2nd in the stream that I predict will have 300 comments or more before it dissolves.

[Stephen Fox]

http://kerussocharis.blogspot.com/2010/ ... l-sbt.html

[Chris]

[Ed Pettibone]

[Stephen Fox]

It's very simple to sign in there; just list a name, first name will do and sign an email which will not be posted.

Jump in with Aaron Weaver and Gene Scarborough and have fun.

Short answer is CB Scott worked with Paige Patterson at SEBTS after some kind of Billy Sunday upbringing and salvation. Thank God he is no longer a Thug, but should that turnaround automatically make him editor of Biblical Recorder?

While there check out the latest on God and the Vote:

http://sbcvoices.com/im-voting-tomorrow ... ment-25415

Maybe Jim Somerville will respond to the author's nonsense at his Blog

[Ed Pettibone]

[Dave Miller]

The condescension and arrogance of that statement is sad, Ed.

[Tim Bonney]

The article has an inaccuracy. It was 7 of 7 justices in Iowa who said that it was unconstitutional to bar gay people from marrying in Iowa. Two of the three justices who were ousted today were appointed by a Republican governor. So why did the justices vote how they voted? Because they are bound by oath to uphold the constitution of the state of Iowa and not be swayed by politics. Sadly it is politics that removed them for doing their job.

When seven out of seven justices of all party affiliations vote for something you can bet it isn't "activist judges." It was simply a matter of constitutional law. Civil rights issues aren't decided by majority vote.

[Stephen Fox]

[Stephen Fox]

http://onthejerichoroad.blogspot.com/20 ... ut_21.html

[Stephen Fox]

Will be interesting to see what they do with page 51 of Diarmand MacCulloch's magisterial Christianity

Joe and Wade

http://sbcvoices.com/the-need-for-inerrancy/

[Stephen Fox]

http://sbcvoices.com/brick-walls-picket ... st-divide/

As a matter for reference this is an interesting post.

I find it ironic that most likely the leading expert on Bonhoeffer in Baptist Life today, Charles Marsh, would be appalled at the analogy of folks who broke from the SBC as being the Neville Chamberlain's of current Christendom.

But that does not the herd at SBC Voices.