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Cat Allen fillets Paige Patterson
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Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:23 pm
by Stephen Fox
Re: Cat Allen fillets Paige Patterson
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:08 am
by William Thornton
a fundamentalist reading Cat's book on Lottie
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:36 pm
by Stephen Fox
Re: a fundamentalist reading Cat's book on Lottie
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:29 pm
by William Thornton
Re: Cat Allen fillets Paige Patterson
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Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:13 pm
by Rock
William,
While it is clear that Catherine Allen in her recent piece for Baptists Today does deny that she has seen any evidence that would convince her that relationship between Moon and Toy ended for theological reason, she further states that the reason it ended is immaterial. Bottom line, God had a higher calling for her life. The rest is history.
Is it not amazing that the church she planted is still blowing and going and bringing people to the lord all while being pastored by a woman. Truth is stranger than doctrine.
Lottie, Fleming and Marilynne
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Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:42 am
by Stephen Fox
http://sbcvoices.com/women-preachers-is ... mment-7936I commend my excellent comment #67 above in response to Dr. James Willingham to Rock and others who continue to follow this contretemp between Paige and Lottie.
Waxxing eloquent
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:28 am
by Stephen Fox
http://sbcvoices.com/women-preachers-is ... mment-7957Lot of sheen as comments developped at sbcvoices to inspire my latest there
DR Brumbelow from the depths of fundy wars has bubbled up there to carry his banner high.
In some fallen chorus had the thought it could be an appropriation of a Sweet time in Jesus if serendipitously we were to all come together as One and sing George Jones' Shine On; whose lyrics I may search for later.
The Rock: How Do Women Preachers Dress
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:12 am
by Stephen Fox
ED SSunday W has a great blog inspired by a young woman in his church and Cat Allen's essay in the March essay of Baps Today.
I have praised him in his comment line there.
http://edsundaywinters.wordpress.com/20 ... ers-dress/His stuff sometimes gets picked up by Christian Century blogs and this one is most deserving; and hopefully Johnny Pierce will get this to the attention of Cat Allen
I'm gonna take it to DR Brumbelow at SBC Voices.
Lottie and the Lausanne Covenant
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:54 pm
by Stephen Fox
Re: Cat Allen fillets Paige Patterson
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:44 pm
by TimR2
Re: Cat Allen fillets Paige Patterson
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:02 pm
by Dave Roberts
As I read Allen's article, it almost seemed that Crawford Toy was a footnote. Her real issues with Patterson hinged around first the acquisition of bits of the house and other items that may have been there when Lottie Moon was there. Her feeling was that it wouild have been far more appropriate to have left it with the church in China that is still functioning despite the years of Communist persecution and having survived China's Cultural Revolution. Her second issue was that the church is growing and reaching people under the leadership of a female pastor, a fact that Patterson never acknowledged, just as he never acknowledged that Lottie Moon functioned as its pastor and leader when she was alive. The question of why she did not marry Toy seemed peripheral to the whole article.
Re: Cat Allen fillets Paige Patterson
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:18 pm
by Rock
Dave,
I read it the same way. Toy is not the issue. The issue is Patterson's disregard for Miss Moon's legacy.
Re: Cat Allen fillets Paige Patterson
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Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:32 am
by William Thornton
It was extraneous to her piece but it makes one wonder, if the denies what others accept, that Moon dropped Toy because of his views and I don't know any mod/libs who do not accept that, is she so biased that it undermines her other opinions. She wrote a book on Moon and is knowledgable about this. Why does she reject what other all accept? Because it doesn't fit her views or because of evidence she has?
Rock's Blog
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Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:02 am
by Stephen Fox
Thornton, have you read EDSWinters blog on Lottie.
DR Brumbelow an outspoken SBC fundamentalist and Rock find some civil common ground there.
Meanwhile at SBC Voices
Posted:
Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:29 am
by Stephen Fox
Re: Cat Allen fillets Paige Patterson
Posted:
Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:01 pm
by Dave Roberts
Charming Billy
Posted:
Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:02 am
by Stephen Fox
by Alice McDermott
Dave, you are own to something here though I come down that the difference on where Toy's conscience and intellect was taking him was the key. Even so there was the age difference, maybe a little too much of Robert E Lee provincialism left in Lottie that drove her to China; was a mindset that defined her character wherever she was.
That said, Toy's declaration that Charlotte Moon had the greatest command of the English Language of any female student he had encountered is pregnant for all kind of imaginations if their romance were to become the stuff of Historical Fiction.
Great line in Charming Billy; not a perfect fit for your musing but if I don't find it will give you a rough paraphrase soon.
Think you will like this critically acclaimed novelist and her novel set in 1940's.
Re: Cat Allen fillets Paige Patterson
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Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:35 am
by Ed Pettibone