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by **Wade Burleson** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:34 pm

(1). Ed: Are you saying that until you started getting E-mails about this incident with references to BaptistLife.com you had no other feed back from any one in CBF about your action ?

(2). Ed: Are you saying that That although you usualykeep every thing it its appropriate file you did not do so with the 95 theses? That is what your statement seems like to me but it is less than clear.

(3). Ed: Respectfully Wade, I would suggest that you where attempting to lock the barn door after the horses had be put out to pasture.
BGCO like every other state convention was already being fragmentized in response to the right wing take over of the SBC. Many of us who where involved with CBF stayed with the SBC for a number of years before we left My wife and I did not leave until 1998 ( at that time I had been a southern Baptist as long as you are old), and saw friends, colleagues and mentors in CBF being systematically marginalized by SBC leadership. Even then, we did not plan our departure. We moved to a new city (Cincinnati) and visited several SBC churches and heard people making comments about CBF that demonstrated that we would not be welcome. Then we attended a church close to home, at first I thought it was SBC the pastor was a graduate of SBTS and although they had new generic hymn books in the sanctuary there where several well worn Broadman Hymnals in the Sunday school rooms. Soon I had a one on one visit with the pastor and discovered that the church was affiliated with the ABC-USA. And in fact was the remnant of the oldest ABC-Church in Cincinnati having moved to the suburbs about 8 years before we discovered it. For several months we attended faith fully but I resisted joining be cause I did not want to leave the SBC. Eventually I woke up to the fact that the SBC for most practical purposes had left me. And that was even before my wife was called to Preach. Or perhaps it was that move that freed her to hear the call. We now live in the Adirondacks where she is pasor of a two church ABC parish.

If you stay around this board you will see me say, not infrequently, there are tons of good people, including many pastors still in the SBC, but I am not sure why. Some folk are impressed with the size but although it is the largest non Catholic denomination in the US. It does not represent the majority of Baptist in this country.

It is my studied opinion that you lay the fragmenting of the SBC at the wrong feet. It seem that your own experiance in recent history is a hint to that.

Ed,

(1). Nobody from CBF ever called me about the 95 Theses --- ever. The first time I heard from anyone was when I read the official history of the CBF in Oklahoma and then received the emails referencing this chat room and then read David Flick's comments about it.

(2). I think I may have a copy somewhere, but I have not looked for it. This was a time before I had experience with files on computers and Word Documents.

(3). I don't know that I would disagree with you on this point.

I'm sorry for posting on Tom's post, but I don't know how to work this site to post a new thread

by **Ed Pettibone** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:53 pm

Ed: Wade, thanks for your promt reply. I hope you will stay around so that we may have further diacussion.

If you should wish to start a new thread just click on the New topic button at the top or bottom of the page.

by **Bruce Gourley** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:25 pm

Welcome to BaptistLife.Com, Wade! Over the past six or seven months you have become a rather frequent topic of conversation around here, you know, so I am glad to see you've poked your head in. :wink:

I'm not so sure about having another Okie around, however ... I've lost count of how many of you guys are on board now, but I feel the scales tipping toward the Sooner State. :lol:

Seriously, I do look forward to your participation in the forums, as your time and inclination allows. The hornet's nest you've stirred up in SBC life just might be good for Southern Baptists, Sooner or later.

by **T. D. Webb** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:18 am

by **William Thornton** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:54 am

by **Wade Burleson** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:09 am

by **T. D. Webb** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:39 am

by **William Thornton** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:10 am

by **David Flick** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:04 pm

by **T. D. Webb** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:53 pm

by **David Flick** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:55 pm

by **T. D. Webb** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:20 am

by **David Flick** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:26 am

by **T. D. Webb** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:38 am

by **David Flick** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:58 am

by **Joseph Patrick** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:21 am

by **Wade Burleson** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:26 am

by **T. D. Webb** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:26 am

Any of those days are good for me, as well. Pick a couple of dates, David, and we'll go with the one that best fits our schedules.

In His Grace and Peace,

by **David Flick** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:49 pm

by **T. D. Webb** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:53 pm

by **David Flick** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:24 pm

by **Wade Burleson** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:07 am

by **T. D. Webb** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:30 am

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