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Good Comments on All Things SBC These Days

Postby Sandy » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:49 pm

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Re: Good Comments on All Things SBC These Days

Postby Dave Roberts » Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:40 pm

William's writing is good, perhaps a wee bit overly optimistic, but not too far off target. As for the future of evangelism, as a septuagenarian, I suspect that the SBC needs a twenty-something to lead resurgent evangelism. Also, we Baptists have long linked salvation and church membership, something that millennials do not look upon with great favor.
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Re: Good Comments on All Things SBC These Days

Postby Sandy » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:17 pm

Dave Roberts wrote:William's writing is good, perhaps a wee bit overly optimistic, but not too far off target. As for the future of evangelism, as a septuagenarian, I suspect that the SBC needs a twenty-something to lead resurgent evangelism. Also, we Baptists have long linked salvation and church membership, something that millennials do not look upon with great favor.


I agree. The conversations about evangelism turn to being more committed to it, and doing more of what we are already doing, which is not even reaching the children of those who are already churched. We're using a megachurch model that has never worked while the little bit of evangelism that is occurring is happening on a much more intimate and personal level. It's still a church program for denominations, but it has moved way beyond that for the millenial generation.
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Re: Good Comments on All Things SBC These Days

Postby Dave Roberts » Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:30 pm

Fifteen years ago, I began to stress that all evangelism in the 21st century will be relational. The propositional evangelism, even of the style of Billy Graham, has largely gone out of fashion. People will believe how much Jesus loves them as they experience how much we love them.
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Re: Good Comments on All Things SBC These Days

Postby William Thornton » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:20 pm

I love these catch-all, scattershot articles.

It's all beyond my control, save for fishing more. May try that.
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Re: Good Comments on All Things SBC These Days

Postby Haruo » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:34 am

Just remember to cast the fly off the red side of the boat in accordance with the scriptures (John 21).
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Re: Good Comments on All Things SBC These Days

Postby Sandy » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:41 am

Most of the retired people I know, including a few pastors, have come to the conclusion that fishing and playing golf are great for a little while, but the effect wears off as time goes on. I've still got a while to go before I can think about retiring and even then it will mostly be just a change of career.

SBC Voices is a pretty good blog, most of the contributors are pretty up front and honest when they write and they're usually on target.
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The Trump Factor

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:46 pm

The Elephant in the Room, Donald Trump. Given the troubles SBC dished to Russ Moore in Bham will the SBC be as struck mute on Trump as the 8 white ministers to whom ML King sent the letter from the Bham Jail 50 plus years ago?

I have a couple recent blogs, one on Eric Metaxas and one today on the Episcopalian Bradley Byrne that raises the real question before the SBC Thornton has conveniently overlooked.

And David Miller has been and continues to be for all his pontifications inconsequential
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What this means for William and sBC Voices

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:05 pm

I'm not sure, haven't had time to think through it clearly.

But I do think there is something here for us to look at

https://rewire.news/religion-dispatches ... the-point/
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Re: What this means for William and sBC Voices

Postby Sandy » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:25 am

Stephen Fox wrote:I'm not sure, haven't had time to think through it clearly.

But I do think there is something here for us to look at

https://rewire.news/religion-dispatches ... the-point/


I think this particular article might warrant its own thread. The idea that what we are seeing with some Evangelicals in their acceptance of and overlooking of all of Trump's openly immoral behavior and his flaunting of things Evangelicals consider particularly heinous and sinful is not hypocrisy at all and their support is rooted in a common ideology of white supremacy explains the inconsistency, at least in some cases. Glenn Beck, another white supremacist, is spending a lot of time these days couching the 2020 election as an ideological battle and is trying to make the case that the Christian right has to ignore the fact that Trump is a debased moral pig because he is carrying their ideological flag and if he doesn't win the blacks and latinos are going to take over. I've always found it difficult to try to figure out why a religious whack nut job like Glenn Beck, who fits the Apostle Paul's description of "empty deceit and philosophy" and believes things that are diametrically opposed to Evangelical Christianity, has the ear of people like Jeffress and Falwell Jr., and gets their pulpits from time to time.

Well. according to the scriptures, even Satan can masquerade as an angel of light.
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