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The SBC and #metoo

Postby Sandy » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:26 pm

https://www.star-telegram.com/living/re ... 58515.html

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/lates ... 84474.html

And there is more news related to Paul Pressler

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/h ... 831892.php

The latter is beginning to take a very bad, ugly turn.

William has a good blog post on the issue of local church autonomy and the reporting of clergy abuse at SBC Voices.

https://sbcvoices.com/outside-of-the-lo ... x-abusers/

Now that Southern Baptists have come to the realization that the crisis among their pastors and vocational ministers places them in the same category as Catholics and priests when it comes to sexual abuse of congregation members, the issue becomes how to handle reporting this between churches, and church-related entities. It seems like communication between one church and another, or the IMB and a couple of churches was simply non-existent when an abuser moved from employment with the IMB to two large Arkansas churches, and the state Baptist convention in South Carolina before his victims caught up with him.
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Re: The SBC and #metoo

Postby William Thornton » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:38 am

LifeWay does a lot of education on this, as does most state conventions. Recent relevant article on this:

https://sbcvoices.com/is-it-ever-too-la ... -reported/

Of course, no church or minister has to listen to anyone.
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Re: The SBC and #metoo

Postby Haruo » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:54 am

Pressler was also asked in 1989 to head President George H.W. Bush’s Office of Government Ethics, though his nomination was later withdrawn.
Anything come out as to why his nomination was withdrawn?
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Re: The SBC and #metoo

Postby Sandy » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:21 am

Haruo wrote:
Pressler was also asked in 1989 to head President George H.W. Bush’s Office of Government Ethics, though his nomination was later withdrawn.
Anything come out as to why his nomination was withdrawn?


http://articles.latimes.com/1989-09-22/ ... -questions

It seems that if you're going to head the government office of ethics, you have to be ethical.
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Re: The SBC and #metoo

Postby Haruo » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:42 pm

Sandy wrote:
Haruo wrote:
Pressler was also asked in 1989 to head President George H.W. Bush’s Office of Government Ethics, though his nomination was later withdrawn.
Anything come out as to why his nomination was withdrawn?


http://articles.latimes.com/1989-09-22/ ... -questions

It seems that if you're going to head the government office of ethics, you have to be ethical.

Interesting but not overwhelmingly clear about some of the charges. The only thing I saw that might be related to the sexual charges was the improper tape recording of a seminary student.

But it's interesting that as early as 1989 the SBC was on notice that Pressler was considered ethically questionable by the US government (and a friendly Republican administration at that). More fake news...
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Re: The SBC and #metoo

Postby Sandy » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:12 pm

Stephen Fox's theory about Pressler's motives for the SBC is that he used the denomination to further the conservative Republican cause, and as a launching pad for his own political career. Pressler always talked about how close he was to the Bush family but it seemed odd that when an ethics post came open that seemed to be a perfect fit for a fundamentalist Baptist crusader who could be excellent window dressing for a Republican President who despised Evangelical conservatives but needed someone to boost his image with them, Pressler was passed over. I have to wonder who he smacked in the face after that rejection.
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