Lifeway pulls book when author recants experience

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Lifeway pulls book when author recants experience

Postby Sandy » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:29 pm

http://www.christianpost.com/news/boy-w ... es-132646/

This sort of subjective "I went to heaven" testimony is certainly questionable. I've read a couple of this type of book, and actually went to hear one author. While I don't want to deny their experience as being made up, I think a lot of what they experienced came from their subconscious, and wasn't actually a trip to heaven. Of course, with the potential for making money in the Christian media business, it is entirely possible that the first few people out with this stuff used it to cash in and retire comfortably.
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Re: Lifeway pulls book when author recants experience

Postby William Thornton » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:32 pm

Tyndale knew about the situation for a long time and did nothing. Christian publishing is a bit of a scandal these days.

Never liked the heaven tourism books...piles of junk mostly.
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Re: Lifeway pulls book when author recants experience

Postby Haruo » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:09 am

Must be hard getting people to believe you with a last name like Malarkey.
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Re: Lifeway pulls book when author recants experience

Postby William Thornton » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:57 am

Haruo wrote:Must be hard getting people to believe you with a last name like Malarkey.


The name adds a wrinkle to the sad story. Actually, the kid (more accuratelt the kid's dad) sold his story in part because of his age and innocent, i.e., no kid would lie like this; it must be true. The kid (and his mom) had great trouble getting people to believe his retraction and denial.
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Re: Lifeway pulls book when author recants experience

Postby Dave Roberts » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:51 am

What a sad chapter taking in the gullible once more.
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Re: Lifeway pulls book when author recants experience

Postby Tim Bonney » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:16 pm

Dave Roberts wrote:What a sad chapter taking in the gullible once more.


And sad that it in some ways gives a black eye to the entire Church. :(
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Re: Lifeway pulls book when author recants experience

Postby Jerry_B » Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:08 pm

When striving to be current, don't be surprised when you get zapped.

Back in the old Baptist Bookstore days, I don't remember there being a whole lot of books of these types even available for sale. I could be wrong, but I remember shelves of commentaries, some music and lots of bibles and more Sunday school supplies than Carter has liver pills (dad taught me that one). Doesn't mean it was better "back in the day", just seems like bad books are going to happen when you're trying to appeal to a wider "Christian" audience.
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Re: Lifeway pulls book when author recants experience

Postby Tim Bonney » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:02 pm

Jerry_B wrote:When striving to be current, don't be surprised when you get zapped.

Back in the old Baptist Bookstore days, I don't remember there being a whole lot of books of these types even available for sale. I could be wrong, but I remember shelves of commentaries, some music and lots of bibles and more Sunday school supplies than Carter has liver pills (dad taught me that one). Doesn't mean it was better "back in the day", just seems like bad books are going to happen when you're trying to appeal to a wider "Christian" audience.


I think it gets worse when you also try to appeal to current superstition. Some years back there was a renewed interest in angels. So bookstores sold all kinds of books from the sublime to the ridiculous about angels.
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Re: Lifeway pulls book when author recants experience

Postby Lou » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:42 pm

One of the things that bothers me about these so-called "Heaven tourism" books is the hold that they have on Christian people (who really ought to know better) vis-à-vis the assurance of heaven. After reading Heaven Is For Real, a Christian told me that there was enough evidence in that book to convince anyone of the reality of heaven. To which I said, "Shouldn't the scriptural testimony about the matter be enough?" Luke 16:29-31 apply here, I think.
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Re: Lifeway pulls book when author recants experience

Postby Tim Bonney » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:19 pm

Lou wrote:One of the things that bothers me about these so-called "Heaven tourism" books is the hold that they have on Christian people (who really ought to know better) vis-à-vis the assurance of heaven. After reading Heaven Is For Real, a Christian told me that there was enough evidence in that book to convince anyone of the reality of heaven. To which I said, "Shouldn't the scriptural testimony about the matter be enough?" Luke 16:29-31 apply here, I think.


Yes, I agree completely Lou. Why should the account of a child that we don't know be more compelling the the scriptures?
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Re: Lifeway pulls book when author recants experience

Postby Sandy » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:03 pm

Back in the "old" Baptist bookstore days, most of the books they carried were published by Broadman or Convention Press. Their mission and purpose of "serving those who serve churches" put them in the business of providing books to study in order to preach or teach Sunday School, or to supplement the church training program. Remember the plethora of "study course" books?

The recent phenomenon of inspirational and recreational reading, including what I call "theology lite" is what sells now. After all, if you go to the mega church down the road, the only Bible study book you need is the one your pastor authored, right? :wink:
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Re: Lifeway pulls book when author recants experience

Postby Tim Bonney » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:17 pm

Sandy wrote:Back in the "old" Baptist bookstore days, most of the books they carried were published by Broadman or Convention Press. Their mission and purpose of "serving those who serve churches" put them in the business of providing books to study in order to preach or teach Sunday School, or to supplement the church training program. Remember the plethora of "study course" books?

The recent phenomenon of inspirational and recreational reading, including what I call "theology lite" is what sells now. After all, if you go to the mega church down the road, the only Bible study book you need is the one your pastor authored, right? :wink:


No doubt Sandy.

I was very sorry to seek the Cokesbury stores close because, like the "old" Baptist Bookstores they offered primarily seriously material rather than what I call the "Christian Trinket Stores" of today. Now Cokesbury is only online.
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