Honeycutt's holy war

[Dave Roberts]

[Tim Bonney]

[Sandy]

ABP noted it, and William posted it here. So apparently it was on their radar screen.

[Tim Bonney]

[William Thornton]

I'm trying to be very moderate in my eating right now.

And, yep, I started it...but I knew my mod friends would be up to the task.

[Tim Bonney]

[Ed Pettibone]

[William Thornton]

Bob Allen thought Jason Allen's address concerning the Holy War sermon was newsworthy. So did I...so I started the discussion here.

Happy to help out.

[Dave Roberts]

So, it was a con at MWBTS who called attention to it. Actually, it had a very minor role, IMHO. It was too little, too late.

[Sandy]

Oh, come on. ABP and Parham jump on these anniversaries all the time. I'll be glad to drag the next one over here when it happens.

[Dave Roberts]

[William Thornton]

[Sandy]

[Tim Bonney]

Sandy, that's a good summary of why you joined a CBF church but it doesn't really explain your negativity to it now. That may be a personal story you don't want to share. If it is a story that comes out of conflict, I can understand that.

[Ed Pettibone]

[Tim Bonney]

Maybe Ed. But I still think there is part of it that Sandy may not be saying. That's his business if he'd rather not get into it further.

[Sandy]

[Jon Estes]

[Dave Roberts]

Jon, two things are happening in CBF, one in my part of the world and one nationally. First, younger leaders are being encouraged to share in CBF at the regional and state level. I was the last of the founding generation of CBF to serve on the CBFVA Coordinating Council. Most of those now serving have no memory of the old days of the SBC and are going in new routes. The second thing is national. CBF is taking a group of the most promising future leaders and involving them in a 2-year program called CBF Fellows that helps them make the transition into churches and into serving in ministry. Almost half of the younger ministers today, without regard for denomination or theology, never make it to their second place of service and often leave ministry. This is often because they are not heard or accepted. This cultivation of younger leaders is helping them to negotiate the waters of church life and letting their voices be heard. BTW, there are people on some of the national councils of CBF who are under 30.

[Stephen Fox]

I have a thread started in Public Policy that I think vindicates much what I have been saying on this board for ten years and in other venues for thirty years now. Just came across it today, an easy google for Tom Powers on Wuthnow and Texas Baptists. Direct link is in public policy

[Sandy]

[Jon Estes]

[Dave Roberts]

Jon, the reorganization of the past three years has placed the work of CBF under three councils--Governance, Ministries, and Missions. I know there are people under 30 on Governance and Ministries. I do not know about missions, so I did not address it.

[Ed Pettibone]

Ed: Dave If I where not a CBF enthusiast I might think, sure it sounds good but how real is it. Well I just posted an announcement on the CBF Board for the 2015 Assembly under the title of Early registration is open. On the page to which I linked there are also links to reviews of the four Assemblies immediately prior to 2014. 2013, 2012,2011 & 2010 For any one who has not attended an Assembly for a number of years or never, I would suggest spending some time over the next few days examining those reviews. They are informative even for me and I attended two of those four, but as others who have been there know it is not possible to take in all that goes on.

[Stephen Fox]

And it s legacy in an interview with Robert Wuthnow about Texas Baptists and how they morphed the SBC into the Tea Party. Google Merritt, even better read the teaser for Wuthnow for Thomas Powers at nybooks.com