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so that they make grammatical sense.Those who can must up the belief get saved. So it is all on the person to get saved unless God's enabling grace is involved.
Haruo wrote:This time I join Ed in his cavil. "Those who can must up the belief get saved" made no sense when I first read it and less the more I reread it, and the second sentence doesn't unravel it.
If I had it to do over again, I would of wrote: This time I join Ed in his request. "Those who can must up the belief get saved" made no sense when I first read it and less the more I reread it, and the second sentence doesn't unravel it.
Ed Pettibone wrote:
Your whole post makes it sound as if Wesleyan Theology is the only Theology to acknowledge God's Grace, and I do not think that is what you meant to convey.
Baptists it seems to me center mostly on repentance and faith (strongly believing in altar calls and OSAS) paying some attention to local work with people’s need. Methodists center mostly on faith and works (focus on worship, piety and the “method” of pleasing God). Yes I know this is not true for many individuals, but seems to me to be characteristic in the whole. Notice I say “seems to me” in that this comes from 27 years of being a Baptist (moderate variety) and 12 years of regular (but not weekly) involvement in Emmaus Programs / Upper Room literature and a few years of discussion after my son’s “conversion” to Wesleyan Theology. This does not come from examination of official denominational doctrine. Does this jibe with your experiences?
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