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Sandy and Inerrancy/ Peter Gomes addresses

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:17 pm

At one point in a recent conversation about Inerrancy and the SBC fundy takeover Sandy said the progressives never were able to make a bumper sticker response to the fundy accusation of "liberalism" and thus deserved to be defeated. He used some reference to the fellow who was on Donahue with Pressler as an example.

Here is what Gomes said about the matter though it didn't quite fit Thornton and Sandy's bumper sticker aspirations; however is a definitive case for me to the inadequacy of Presslerism which I remain was a distraction for his Birch Society lifetime legacy!

Quoting Gomes:

Literalism is dangerous for two reasons. First it indulges the reader in the fanciful notion that by virtue of natural intelligence the text is apprehensible and therefore sensible. Despite genuflections to the notion of original or authorial intent, meaning is determined by what the reader takes out of the text, and this meaning the reader attributes to the author. Thus, what the reader thinks is there becomes not merely the reader's opinion, but the will of God, with all the moral consequences and authority that that implies...The second danger is the power of private judgment may well obscure the meaning of the text by paying attention only to what it says....Allegories, typologies, and symbolic interpretations are to be avoided in favor of the pure and uncorrupted word. Literalism does not want the text held hostage to these devices, but literalism itself is hostage to the 18th century illusion that truth and meaning are the same thing, and that they are fixed and discernible by the application of the faculties of reason and common sense.
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Re: Sandy and Inerrancy/ Peter Gomes addresses

Postby Neil Heath » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:45 pm

Gomes is spot on for many folks out there. Thanks.
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Re: Sandy and Inerrancy/ Peter Gomes addresses

Postby Haruo » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:27 pm

For many others, though, Gomes is just looking for a way to weasel around his homosexuality.
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Re: Sandy and Inerrancy/ Peter Gomes addresses

Postby Sandy » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:37 pm

Gomes wrote:Literalism is dangerous for two reasons. First it indulges the reader in the fanciful notion that by virtue of natural intelligence the text is apprehensible and therefore sensible. Despite genuflections to the notion of original or authorial intent, meaning is determined by what the reader takes out of the text, and this meaning the reader attributes to the author. Thus, what the reader thinks is there becomes not merely the reader's opinion, but the will of God, with all the moral consequences and authority that that implies...The second danger is the power of private judgment may well obscure the meaning of the text by paying attention only to what it says....Allegories, typologies, and symbolic interpretations are to be avoided in favor of the pure and uncorrupted word. Literalism does not want the text held hostage to these devices, but literalism itself is hostage to the 18th century illusion that truth and meaning are the same thing, and that they are fixed and discernible by the application of the faculties of reason and common sense.


Translation in plain English: I don't really like what the Bible says, I disagree with many of its principles, and so I am going to present this obfuscated explanation of what I believe in order to avoid accountability.
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Re: Sandy and Inerrancy/ Peter Gomes addresses

Postby Haruo » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:58 pm

See what I mean...

Seriously, the notion that Gomes didn't like the Bible or agree with what it said is not in accordance with what I've read of him on the subject.
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