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Top ten attention getters....

Postby William Thornton » Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:52 pm

This list is what got the most attention on my humble blog this year. Some of these I posted here on BaptistLife, most I did not.
One can see that a few topics get attention. Calvinism, a doctrine made for internet squabbles, accounted for three of the top ten. Clergy sex abuse, a matter that gets too little attention in the SBC, and the minister's housing allowance, where I get shot at by both sides, accounted for two each.

1. Sniveling Wimps
That would be young SBC males who refuse to hear God's calling to overseas service through our misnamed Journeyman program allowing the program to be dominated by females who do answer the call. Danny Akin, SEBTS president, tweeted my blog on this and thereby jacked up the page views to the top of my list. There is some red meat for my mod/lib friends in this article. Read it.

2. Vast numbers of Georgia pastors sign 'Traditionalist' statementThe HQ blog of anti-calvinism in the SBC, SBC Today, breathlessly touted that more Georgia pastors signed the "Statement of the Traditional Southern Baptist Understanding of God’s Plan of Salvation” than pastors from any other state. How many? Oh, about three dozen, proving that if you are going to tout something it would be helpful to find something significant before doing so. Odd that Traditionalist HQ would be Cleveland, GA.

3. Pastor jailed for holding Bible study in his homeI called this story touted by Fox News for what it was, phony, and cautioned readers not to be taken in by it. The better title would be "Stubborn pastor jailed for lawlessness." SBC pastors are suckers for stories like this and ought to be set straight.

4. Anti-Calvinist Headquarters now in GeorgiaTruett-McConnell College, one of the Georgia Baptist Convention's schools bought the website SBC Today which formerly had connections to New Orleans seminary. Clearly, the site is dedicated to promoting "traditionalist" SBC doctrine and to combating Calvinism in the SBC.

5. Autonomy and Clergy Sex Abuse
9.The changing landscape of clergy sex abuse in the SBC
Whenever I write on clergy sex abuse, some of the people who have an interest in seeing children safer in SBC churches pick it up. Two such posts made the top ten. First, when a church in Missourt affiliated with a Southern Baptist association, state convention, and national SBC kept as their pastor a man who has credible accusations and pending charges for child sex crimes it was news here and elsewhere. Nothing has changed. The man is still the pastor...and no one can do anything about it but the church. That's local church autonomy. Second, a jury in Florida found a local Baptist association and the Florida Baptist Convention liable for damages in a church's sex abuse case. It is being appealed but you can bet that SBCers are paying attention to this.

6.How do you explain your government tax break?
8. Are you messing up on your housing allowance?
The minister's housing allowance, our sacred government tax break, always gets some attention both from my fellow pastors who think that by writing about it your humble, plodding blogger may trigger a repeal of it and by those who read about housing allowance abuses by a few pastors and would like to see the laws changed to eliminate abuse. The former need not worry too much and the latter have a good point. I am accustomed to being shot at from both sides.

7. Four more years of Obama We lost. They won. I'm not going to spend four years whining and complaining about it. Associated Baptist Press picked this blog up for their guest commentary and thereby completely dashed all my ambition to be SBC president. I'm trying to cope, brethren.

10. Secret Calvinist meeting
Calvinists and Calvinism are guaranteed attention getters. Toss in a provocative title like "Secret Calvinist meeting" and folks want to know more. The meeting was of Frank Page's Calvinist study group, the one he appointed after the convention back in June and which group is meeting on background. Let me get this straight: the subject that about everyone in the SBC discusses publicly (Page wrote a book on it for crying out loud) has to meet privately so people can speak freely? Ridiculous.
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Re: Top ten attention getters....

Postby William Thornton » Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:53 pm

Fox if you plan to comment, you are going to have to reproduce at least one quote from whatever one or ones you choose, just to show that you read it. Merry Christmas.
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Re: Top ten attention getters....

Postby Tim Bonney » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:00 pm

Interesting set of blog posts William! And I can said that I have previously read most of them.
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Fox's Magisterial Reply to Usher in the New Year

Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:56 am

With reference to Number 7 and your top Twelve SBC list you just blogged at the Plodder here is my response brought over from your Blog Comment Stream.

Hoping to coordinate this with the Public Policy stream on the religious right. Maybe by May John Pierce will have us do a feature story for Baptists Today to kick off the 26th year. We are worthy



Darn it, I was hoping to be the first comment on your top Ten list but I guess I will be second. First, Dr. Thornton You know I have a great deal of affection for you else how would I thought of you when I recently stopped in Brazelton, Ga. I was with friends so Dinner at the Winder CBarl was out of the question.

That said when you put the SBC in larger framework of Diarmaid McCulloch's last 150 pages of the History of Christianity it don't come to much.

Third. Richard Land is a brownshirt. In a few years when his friend Fisher Humphrey's nephew Charles Marsh's bio of Bonhoeffer is digested; Land's alliance with the tea Party will only be a matter of degree analogous to the Coopted Church DB resisted in Germany in the 30's.

4th: The Recent Sandy Hook massacre and the tough examination of the NRA--google Wills at nybooks.com on the God Moloch--shows just how sordid the whole SBC takeover has become as Pressler and Patterson's historic ties to the Far Right in the Country in a sense were on display in Newtown, Conn.

5 Dan Cathy sat beside me in Bob Crapps religion class the fall of 71 at Furman. Connect the dots to JackFlanders and Pressler at Baylor in 66 and you start to get the picture. I will link your blog on Dan's facebook wall. You may want to read his assistant Billy Ivey's Protagonist blog on Newtown.

All the best to you in 2013. I have a copy of a recent Barrow Journal I will be studying closely for kerygma and emanations

December 28,



William Thornton wrote:This list is what got the most attention on my humble blog this year. Some of these I posted here on BaptistLife, most I did not.
One can see that a few topics get attention. Calvinism, a doctrine made for internet squabbles, accounted for three of the top ten. Clergy sex abuse, a matter that gets too little attention in the SBC, and the minister's housing allowance, where I get shot at by both sides, accounted for two each.

1. Sniveling Wimps
That would be young SBC males who refuse to hear God's calling to overseas service through our misnamed Journeyman program allowing the program to be dominated by females who do answer the call. Danny Akin, SEBTS president, tweeted my blog on this and thereby jacked up the page views to the top of my list. There is some red meat for my mod/lib friends in this article. Read it.

2. Vast numbers of Georgia pastors sign 'Traditionalist' statementThe HQ blog of anti-calvinism in the SBC, SBC Today, breathlessly touted that more Georgia pastors signed the "Statement of the Traditional Southern Baptist Understanding of God’s Plan of Salvation” than pastors from any other state. How many? Oh, about three dozen, proving that if you are going to tout something it would be helpful to find something significant before doing so. Odd that Traditionalist HQ would be Cleveland, GA.

3. Pastor jailed for holding Bible study in his homeI called this story touted by Fox News for what it was, phony, and cautioned readers not to be taken in by it. The better title would be "Stubborn pastor jailed for lawlessness." SBC pastors are suckers for stories like this and ought to be set straight.

4. Anti-Calvinist Headquarters now in GeorgiaTruett-McConnell College, one of the Georgia Baptist Convention's schools bought the website SBC Today which formerly had connections to New Orleans seminary. Clearly, the site is dedicated to promoting "traditionalist" SBC doctrine and to combating Calvinism in the SBC.

5. Autonomy and Clergy Sex Abuse
9.The changing landscape of clergy sex abuse in the SBC
Whenever I write on clergy sex abuse, some of the people who have an interest in seeing children safer in SBC churches pick it up. Two such posts made the top ten. First, when a church in Missourt affiliated with a Southern Baptist association, state convention, and national SBC kept as their pastor a man who has credible accusations and pending charges for child sex crimes it was news here and elsewhere. Nothing has changed. The man is still the pastor...and no one can do anything about it but the church. That's local church autonomy. Second, a jury in Florida found a local Baptist association and the Florida Baptist Convention liable for damages in a church's sex abuse case. It is being appealed but you can bet that SBCers are paying attention to this.

6.How do you explain your government tax break?
8. Are you messing up on your housing allowance?
The minister's housing allowance, our sacred government tax break, always gets some attention both from my fellow pastors who think that by writing about it your humble, plodding blogger may trigger a repeal of it and by those who read about housing allowance abuses by a few pastors and would like to see the laws changed to eliminate abuse. The former need not worry too much and the latter have a good point. I am accustomed to being shot at from both sides.

7. Four more years of Obama We lost. They won. I'm not going to spend four years whining and complaining about it. Associated Baptist Press picked this blog up for their guest commentary and thereby completely dashed all my ambition to be SBC president. I'm trying to cope, brethren.

10. Secret Calvinist meeting
Calvinists and Calvinism are guaranteed attention getters. Toss in a provocative title like "Secret Calvinist meeting" and folks want to know more. The meeting was of Frank Page's Calvinist study group, the one he appointed after the convention back in June and which group is meeting on background. Let me get this straight: the subject that about everyone in the SBC discusses publicly (Page wrote a book on it for crying out loud) has to meet privately so people can speak freely? Ridiculous.
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Attn getters and events

Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:59 am

As Thornton's list differs in places here are his event in distinction to his getters.

I was number 2 to comment, hope not ominous for the coming year as I so badly wanted to Number One Spot in the Response list

http://sbcplodder.blogspot.com/2012/12/ ... -2012.html
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