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Reminder 2013 is a biennial year for ABC-USA

Postby Ed Pettibone » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:04 pm

The Meeting will be in Kansas City, (Overland/Park) Kansas, June 21-22- & 23

For details go to http://www.americanbaptists2013.com/
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Re: Reminder 2013 is a biennial year for ABC-USA

Postby Tim Bonney » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:03 pm

I believe it is Overland Park isn't it Ed? The pastor at FBC Overland Park is a former Associate Pastor at FBC Des Moines while I was there.
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Re: Reminder 2013 is a biennial year for ABC-USA

Postby Ed Pettibone » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:10 pm

Tim Bonney wrote:I believe it is Overland Park isn't it Ed? The pastor at FBC Overland Park is a former Associate Pastor at FBC Des Moines while I was there.


Ed: Right you are Tim, note I have corrected my earlier post, thank you.
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Postby Tim Bonney » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:29 am

Ed Pettibone wrote:
Tim Bonney wrote:I believe it is Overland Park isn't it Ed? The pastor at FBC Overland Park is a former Associate Pastor at FBC Des Moines while I was there.[/quote

Ed: Right you are Tim, note I have corrected my earlier post, thank you.


I'd not have known that if I'd not kept up with Rev. Williams moving to the area. It sounds like a good location. Kansas City it a good central location.
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Re: Reminder 2013 is a biennial year for ABC-USA

Postby Tim Bonney » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:58 pm

Wow Ed! That is a lot of driving. But I'm sure you'll enjoy the events.

One of the different things about the UMC is that national meetings are much more rare, only every four years. While there is a national focus, that focus doesn't include the whole denominational family getting together in convention style meetings. So I tend to see a more regional (Annual Conference) focus to being a United Methodist.

The one thing I do miss not being in the ABC any longer it getting together with longtime friends in the denomination.
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Re: Reminder 2013 is a biennial year for ABC-USA

Postby Ed Pettibone » Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:52 pm

Ed: Thanks again Tim, in that last sentence, you answered a question that has bugged me for a while. I have wondered why I do not have the same withdrawal symptoms, when we do not get to an ABC Biennial as I do if we miss a CBF annual. The answer is, It is the friends from so many places. At an ABC Biennial I feel pretty much like a stranger, in large part because most of the people I can call "friends" are from Ohio and Upstate New York and I see many of the NY people with some frequency and one of our Upstate NYS Interim Regional Executive Ministers was a former Associate Exe in Ohio, And our new Executive Minister Is from Ohio. But there are not nearly as many ABC'ers here on BL.C.

Whereas in CBF with so many who are former SBCers there are more folk that I have known when I lived in in GA, KY, AL, MS, AR, IN, OH & FL.. And Many of those from my college and Seminary Days, were from an even longer list of additional states. Also here we are active in BFNE and know CBF folk from Main, MA,CT,NY,PA, NJ,NY,NH & VT. And each year I meet some one who recognizes my name from the BL.C boards.
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Postby Tim Bonney » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:18 pm

My time of the General Board meant that I did tend to know quite a few people at the Biennial meetings.

I find the of the differences in polity do make a difference as to where you make most of your connections. Another feature of the Conference system is that the majority of UMC pastors spend their entire career in one Conference. So they tend to know each other well because of years of connection. In the ABC my geographical moves tend to be larger. I see a lot of ABC pastors move from one Region to another when seeking a new church.

I've been to three Iowa Annual Conferences and will attend my fourth this year. So I am starting to get to know more pastors in the Conference. But it is a learning curve to be sure. The first couple of years I felt very much like I was on unfamiliar ground.

That may be a good lesson in that it might cause me to better understand how lay people feel when they change local churches, particularly when they often change to a church of a different denominational family.
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Re: Reminder 2013 is a biennial year for ABC-USA

Postby Ed Pettibone » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:05 pm

Tim Bonney wrote:My time of the General Board meant that I did tend to know quite a few people at the Biennial meetings.

I find the of the differences in polity do make a difference as to where you make most of your connections. Another feature of the Conference system is that the majority of UMC pastors spend their entire career in one Conference. So they tend to know each other well because of years of connection. In the ABC my geographical moves tend to be larger. I see a lot of ABC pastors move from one Region to another when seeking a new church.

I've been to three Iowa Annual Conferences and will attend my fourth this year. So I am starting to get to know more pastors in the Conference. But it is a learning curve to be sure. The first couple of years I felt very much like I was on unfamiliar ground.

That may be a good lesson in that it might cause me to better understand how lay people feel when they change local churches, particularly when they often change to a church of a different denominational family.


Ed: I think I understand how Methodist polity lessens the distance of clergy moves. However I prefer the CBF and SBC non restrictive systems to even the limited involvement of the denomination in the ABC.

And perhaps your move will be helpful in understanding "how lay people feel when they change local churches, particularly when they often change to a church of a different denominational family." But keep in mind lay people make moves based more on personal circumstance and preference, usually with far less support from outside their own family.

As for national Meeting I get the impression that the your conferences have even less participation by laity than ABC and SBC and certainly less than CBF , would you concur?
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Re: Reminder 2013 is a biennial year for ABC-USA

Postby Tim Bonney » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:10 pm

Ed Pettibone wrote:As for national Meeting I get the impression that the your conferences have even less participation by laity than ABC and SBC and certainly less than CBF , would you concur?


Well, yes and no. The ABC Region meetings I attended would have a lot of lay people from churches that were active in the region. But many churches sent no delegates to the Region meetings at all and even a number of pastors seldom attended. So it varied by church as to the level of lay participation.

But as a total set of participants the clergy are required to attend the Conference meetings and that is where we have our membership in the church. The lay members of the conference are there in equal number to the clergy. But each church has at least one lay member for each clergy person in their church. So yes, there are less lay people involved in some ways but in other ways the lay people who are involved more evenly represent all of our churches rather than some churches not being represented.

This year my church will have three lay people attending as voting members of the conference because larger churches are given some additional representation at times to help equalize the required 50/50 clergy/lay attendance since we also have to match up lay and clergy including those who aren't pastors such as chaplains etc.
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