Parham, US Senator Graham, Richard Land and Harry Dent

[Stephen Fox]

http://www.ethicsdaily.com/news.php?viewStory=14979

And add Nixon strategist Harry Dent's Daughter Ginny Brant who I think is member of same church in Seneca, SC as Lindsay Graham, Corinth Baptist; but I could be mistaken.
Dent was a mentor to Lee Atwater who begat Karl Rove who miscegenated politically with Richard Land who got mentioned in Parham's article above if you want to connect the dots.
Point being would be most fascinating for Parham and or Rob Marus of ABP to follow up on all this and see what longtime IMB SBC trustee Ginny Brant thinks about Parham's article.
Frame it all in this excellent piece by Wade Clark Roof at Religion Dispatches.
Would be great follow up to the politics Breakout sessions of Baylor and Aaron Weaver's recent majestic Confab on the Baptist Contribution.

WCRoof:

http://tinyurl.com/yl3kthl

[Stephen Fox]

is this recent review in Christian Century:

http://www.christiancentury.org/article.lasso?id=7857

[Stephen Fox]

http://r25web.furman.edu/wv3_ext/wv3_se ... id=1038497

I hope somebody there at Marshall Frady's alma mater has the presence of mind to reference and ask him about Parham's essay

[Stephen Fox]

http://ginnybrant.com/About__Biography_.html

As you see in pix at her website, Ginny has a handsome family.

Her sister, Dolly, was a Furman beauty.

I hope her politics have evolved more toward the New Testament than Richard Land's; at least approaching Senator Graham as explored by Robert Parham's excellent essay linked above.

[Stephen Fox]

#1 Today, 06:19 PM
Wiserphil
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Just got back from watching Lindsey Graham...

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give a speech at Furman university here in Greenville, SC. Their were about 100 people in attendance. My personal observations were not enough people for one. But on the bright side alot of people were booing and yelling at the top of there lungs. I have to say it was one of the hardest things I have ever had to do. To set back and watch a traitor to his State, Country and the Constitution tell one lie after another was pretty rough. So I decided to study him. So he first comes out and immediately brings up 9/11 and the wars in Afghanistan. And he would keep asking the audience questions. And when he got the the Q&A part of the evening he would stretch out his answers to buy up time. He took some shots at Ron Paul and the Constitution. He is probably the best liar I have seen since Bill Clinton. He also keep playing the left/right paradigm. I really pissed this guy off in front of me. He must have been a real hardcore Republican because he was digging everything Lindsey said. I kept yelling over his head at what a traitor he was. I even got Mr. Graham to look at me once. But overall I had a moment of clarity tonight. The Third party position is not going to work. We must take back the Republicat parties from within. So I will be joining the Republican party just to piss off some of the hardcores.

Early reaction to Graham's Town Hall tonight at Furman;

From a Ron Paul diehard.

Lot smaller crowd than Chet Edwards facing 1,000 or so not long ago at Baylor.

[Stephen Fox]

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article ... /910130317

This is the kind of stuff that happens when SBC forces Furman out of the fold; and creates tension and distance to places like Baylor and Samford

ET and Jonathan's Constitution Party holds sway.

Listen Closely to this interview on NPR's Here and Now this morning, about Richard Land's close friend James Dobson and how Land has taken the American Center away from Eisenhower

http://maxblumenthal.com/2009/10/republ ... e-and-now/

Gourley, you and Bdid in particular listen to this interview, one of Max B's best to date; especially his relief on James Dobson, the pilgrimage of Daddy Schaeffer and his congrats from Susan Eisenhower

[Stephen Fox]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/1 ... 19225.html

In this video a man shouts from the audience that "Obama and Graham are guilty of treason" by virtue of Article 1 Section One of Constitution.

Would be nice if Aaron Weaver would put up video of Chet Edwards Town Hall at Baylor

[Stephen Fox]

http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2009/10/13 ... town-hall/

[Stephen Fox]

Stephen Fox said:
David:

I think the SBC will have to face head on Richard Land’s ERLC affinity for the politics of James Dobson.
Robert Parham at ethicsdaily.com has recently written of the chasm between Baptist and US Senator Lindsay Graham and the politics of Richard Land and the CP funded ERLC.
Max Blumenthal in Republican Gomorrah gets close to the SBC in his new book. The NPR Here and Now interview of a few days ago gets to the heart of the underbelly of American politics denounced by Susan Eisenhower Land and his ERLC persists in flirting with.
As Adrian Rogers son I urge you and the children of Billy Graham to take a close look at Republican Gomorrah and see if you need to have a strong conversation with Richard Land.

I just left the comment above #87 on DAvid Rogers recent blog at www.sbcimpact.net

[Stephen Fox]

Dismiss the Christian Right at Your Own Risk

What Blumenthal has captured in chilling reportage is the reality that the Republican Party has been “shattered” by a sociopolitical movement that has raised political partisanship to the level of a cosmological struggle. Emilio Gentile, a political scientist in Italy, refers to this as the “sacralization of politics.” Not participation in political struggles by the religious, but the elevation of politics to the level of the sacred. For most in the Christian Right, if you are not working with God, then you are a witting or unwitting purveyor of ungodly sin. For the most apocalyptically-aroused participants in the Christian Right’s new political crusades, this involves the struggle against Satan in the End Times.

If you think that references to the Crusades are far fetched, consider that at the Christian Right’s 2009 Values Voter Summit in Washington DC, the exhibit hall had a table from the ultra-right Catholic group Tradition, Family, Property (TFP) for whom the Crusades and Inquisition were high points of Christian devotion. One earnest young man wore the ceremonial blood-red sash favored by TFP, recalling the red flags that accompanied Torquemada into a Spanish town and which preceded the condemned heading toward the flames at the stake. Not my brand of Christianity, thanks.

The Christian Right and its allies peddle a form of apocalyptic aggression that can be embraced by those anticipating Armageddon, those fighting corrosive sinful society, and secularists with a highly dualistic worldview. As sociologist Brenda E. Brasher has observed, in political struggles, dualistic apocalypticism “leaves no room for ambiguity in the stories told about the ‘Other.’ There is a real hardening of sides. We are good, they are evil. This is not a disagreement, but a struggle with evil incarnate, so there is no structure for a peaceful reconciliation.” The stories surfacing in the angry teabagger, townhaller, and birther movements reflect this aggressive apocalyptic dualism in both religious and secular forms.

Of Max's new book at

http://www.religiondispatches.org/archi ... op/?page=2

I encourage Gourley and AAron Weaver to use Parham's recent column on Lindsay Graham and Land as takeoff for thorough review of this book using this RD column as source.
Interview David Rogers and Harry Dent's daughter Ginny Brant, Sen Graham's Neighbor in Seneca South Carolina to give the Baptists Today article "Sparkle".
I'm just a phone call away for suggestions and insight

And do listen closely to the NPR Here and Now interview few days ago to give you focus in this pursuit.
Talk to Charles marsh about how Francis Schaeffer missed the boat on inerrancy in early 70's Lausanne Conference. a mistake Max reports Francis the Dad regretted toward the end of his life; the political entanglements it led to.

[Stephen Fox]

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pb ... Cat=NEWS03

Robert Parham has small following in Upstate South Carolina after all.

Question is where is Ginny Brant on all this????

[Stephen Fox]

http://www.sbcimpact.net/2009/11/20/bap ... cal-world/

Got another good round going with David in comment section above framed in recent opinion pieces by Robert Parham

With Roger's Dad Adrian on front row with Criswell in 1980 in Dallas, thought David might have a clue what I was talking about and how it has come on down to us 30 years later.