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Light at the end of the tunnel

Postby Tim Bonney » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:51 pm

Since there has been some interest expressed in sharing ministry ups and downs and what works, I'm thrilled to soon see some light at the end of the tunnel.

A few months ago I found out I was not getting a new Associate Pastor at the usual time of appointment, which would have been July 1 but that I would be waiting a year to get a very qualified young guy who is finishing up his seminary degree at Duke.

So the plan has been how a congregation that has almost always had two pastors is going to get along with just me for a year. I hired some temp staff to help with visitation, redistributed some duties to other people. But, right after my last Associate left I had eight funerals over about six weeks. It has been wearing.

But, the good news is that, do to some changing circumstances for my new young staff member, he is going to be able to start on January 1 instead of June 30th. So at this point, I only have to get along short staffed for a couple more months!
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Re: Light at the end of the tunnel

Postby William Thornton » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:25 pm

If I were close, you could hire me on a temp basis. I'd promise not to get all fundy on you.

So, who decided to downsize the staff for that period? Minister shortage?
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Re: Light at the end of the tunnel

Postby Tim Bonney » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:15 am

William Thornton wrote:If I were close, you could hire me on a temp basis. I'd promise not to get all fundy on you.

So, who decided to downsize the staff for that period? Minister shortage?


Yes, clergy shortage. There just was not a good match available for us in July. Our incoming Associate Pastor has a strong connection to the Indianola community having attended Simpson College (two blocks from us) and he and his wife being native Iowans. So, I agreed to the idea of hiring him a year in a advance for July of 2019 when he graduated seminary. But he has found a way to finish up early so I got permission from the Bishop and cabinet to get him started January 1st. As he is an an appointed associate you have to work through the process.

I'd consider hiring you for a few months William, but I think the commute would be a problem. LOL
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Re: Light at the end of the tunnel

Postby Haruo » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:12 pm

Well, William, we're looking for an interim here at Fremont if you'd like to submit a résumé...
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Re: Light at the end of the tunnel

Postby Tim Bonney » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:01 pm

Haruo wrote:Well, William, we're looking for an interim here at Fremont if you'd like to submit a résumé...


One of the best things about being a Methodist is that I no longer send out resumes or interview with search committees.
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Re: Light at the end of the tunnel

Postby Haruo » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:01 am

This is my first experience at being on such a committee, and I have been given virtually no instructions about what is or is not to be said, done, or thought. I thought there would be a briefing on secrecy, ethics, etc. Not so far. But then, we haven't really gotten to work yet.
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Re: Light at the end of the tunnel

Postby William Thornton » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:58 am

Haruo wrote:Well, William, we're looking for an interim here at Fremont if you'd like to submit a résumé...


Haven't kept my resume current. I'd have to add "lean mean opinion machine." And I opine that coffee is coffee, the cheaper the better for me, probably heresy in Seattle.
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Re: Light at the end of the tunnel

Postby Sandy » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:36 am

William Thornton wrote:
Haruo wrote:Well, William, we're looking for an interim here at Fremont if you'd like to submit a résumé...


Haven't kept my resume current. I'd have to add "lean mean opinion machine." And I opine that coffee is coffee, the cheaper the better for me, probably heresy in Seattle.


I enjoyed your coffee column at SBC Voices. You also have some pretty good insights into all things SBC, as do most of the other columnists. It's good "grassroots" expression, one of those things that if a good leader at the top stumbled upon, and took much of the advice, it would turn out to be considered insightfully successful.
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Re: Light at the end of the tunnel

Postby Tim Bonney » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:43 am

William Thornton wrote:
Haven't kept my resume current. I'd have to add "lean mean opinion machine." And I opine that coffee is coffee, the cheaper the better for me, probably heresy in Seattle.


If you hang out with the Methodists we can turn coffee into wine.
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Re: Light at the end of the tunnel

Postby Sandy » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:45 am

Timothy Bonney wrote:So the plan has been how a congregation that has almost always had two pastors is going to get along with just me for a year. I hired some temp staff to help with visitation, redistributed some duties to other people. But, right after my last Associate left I had eight funerals over about six weeks. It has been wearing.


I was in a similar situation a few years back, at a church where I went to be the head of the new school they were starting, but where I had to serve on staff of the church as the school developed by adding a grade a year. I was the discipleship/education minister/campus administrator. Two years in the pastor resigned, the preschool/children's minister left with him, the youth pastor moved on after a few months and we went from four full time to one full time with an interim who preached on Sundays. And for a while, I also did the preaching. I think people don't realize that there is more work to the church ministry than planning the calendar and preparing sermons. Funerals and hospital visitation in a congregation that leans heavily on the elderly side can be time consuming. Hopefully your wait will be worth it.
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Re: Light at the end of the tunnel

Postby Tim Bonney » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:47 am

Sandy wrote:I enjoyed your coffee column at SBC Voices. You also have some pretty good insights into all things SBC, as do most of the other columnists. It's good "grassroots" expression, one of those things that if a good leader at the top stumbled upon, and took much of the advice, it would turn out to be considered insightfully successful.


I've even read SBC Voice on occasion. Just not much because I've been out of SBC land so long. You are a good writer.
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Re: Light at the end of the tunnel

Postby Tim Bonney » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:08 am

Just as an aside, in a time of clergy shortage the appointment system doesn't work as well for keeping an Associate Pastor as it used to. After a young person gets two or three years of experience under their belt the cabinet often needs to grab them to fill a small church that doesn't have a pastor and then you have to get another new Associate. So most Associates are people straight out of seminary who will only be with you two or three years.
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