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Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:20 am
by Jon Estes
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:30 am
by Sandy
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:30 am
by Jon Estes
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:28 pm
by Sandy
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:25 pm
by Jon Estes
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:45 am
by KeithE
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:03 am
by Dave Roberts
By law in most states, a fifteen-year-old cannot be consensual. Most state laws treat that as statutory rape. Check the laws in your state.
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:02 am
by Sandy
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:58 pm
by Haruo
If you mean a 17-year-old boy having sexual intercourse with a 15-year-old girl, I think thirty years later that is not anything to get in high dudgeon about. On the other hand, lying about you did back then is an issue. At this point I don't think there's enough evidence of what went on back there to judge. I am inclined to believe Professor Ford on the subject, and that doesn't help Kavanaugh if I'm a Senator. But I am much more strong in my belief that Kavanaugh lied about his drinking, which is something that to my mind is potentially disqualifying. (Though for me the notion that a sitting President is above the criminal law of the several states is a much stronger reason to vote against him.) The alleged incident with him and Dr. Ford basically seems to come he said she said (though he didn't say anything about consensual acts with her), but I think the evidence about his excessive drinking and behavior while drunk is much stronger, including a police report as well as numerous witness statements.
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:53 am
by JE Pettibone
Ed: Hauro, writes "I think the evidence about his excessive drinking and behavior while drunk is much stronger, including a police report as well as numerous witness statements."
I seem to have missed any thing about a police report regarding his drinking and behavior while drunk, would you provide a source for me to look at.
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:30 pm
by Haruo
Here's a link to . Allegedly threw ice at a patron and his friend hit somebody with a glass. A lot of other classmates have come forward with anecdotal stuff about his drinking at Yale, including his roommate, not just the woman he allegedly exposed himself to.
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:39 pm
by Haruo
The video titled "Still Like Beer" is worth watching in its entirety. Again, none of this is proof of anything, but it sends up some red flags, and I think it deserves a much more serious second investigation than the FBI mustered in the days between Flake's shaming in the elevator and the rush to [withhold?] judgment.
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:52 am
by JE Pettibone
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:49 pm
by Haruo
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:14 pm
by JE Pettibone
Ed: Hauro, when you ask If I have seen the video, Yes , and I have and I watched the original broadcast. And wondered what you would think about it.
Re: Abstinence, True Love Waits flawed
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:11 pm
by Haruo
Do you have a link to that "original broadcast"?