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Your Public Library matters

Postby Stephen Fox » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:29 pm

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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby Haruo » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:21 pm

Good article, but what on earth is "library football"?
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby KeithE » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:16 pm

Haruo wrote:Good article, but what on earth is "library football"?

That was library footfall. IOW, attendance.
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby JE Pettibone » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:22 am

KeithE wrote:
Haruo wrote:Good article, but what on earth is "library football"?

That was library footfall. IOW, attendance.


Ed: Or literally, the foot traffic into libraries.
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby William Thornton » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:57 am

I love my public liberry and am never without a few books. Right now I have "Big Chicken" (I'm near the poultry capital of the world, Gainesville, Ga), a Stephen King book impulse item off the large'print shelf, and the nonfiction account of the Essex whaling ship. My liberry has a pretty good local and Ga history room. A new addition included a vast room with dozens of computers, no interest to me but always a bunch of patrons using them.

But I'm at a loss to understand why my local liberry shouldn't be seen as a strictly local expense.

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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby KeithE » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:12 am

William Thornton wrote:I love my public liberry and am never without a few books. Right now I have "Big Chicken" (I'm near the poultry capital of the world, Gainesville, Ga), a Stephen King book impulse item off the large'print shelf, and the nonfiction account of the Essex whaling ship. My liberry has a pretty good local and Ga history room. A new addition included a vast room with dozens of computers, no interest to me but always a bunch of patrons using them.

But I'm at a loss to understand why my local liberry shouldn't be seen as a strictly local expense.


Trump Renews Bid to Eliminate Library Funding, NEA, and NEH. This cut was rejected for the 2018 budget. I have not been able to find if this funding was eliminated or not in the Omnibus Funding Bill.

American Library Association blowback.

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That’s cs - a cheap shot. I for one appreciate Stephen’s article.
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby Dave Roberts » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:00 am

William Thornton wrote:I love my public liberry and am never without a few books. Right now I have "Big Chicken" (I'm near the poultry capital of the world, Gainesville, Ga), a Stephen King book impulse item off the large'print shelf, and the nonfiction account of the Essex whaling ship. My liberry has a pretty good local and Ga history room. A new addition included a vast room with dozens of computers, no interest to me but always a bunch of patrons using them.

But I'm at a loss to understand why my local liberry shouldn't be seen as a strictly local expense.



William, you have obviously never lived in one of two areas. The first is to live in areas where poverty and the loss of industry have decimated the tax base. Without federal assistance, many materials would not exist in the local libraries. The second is living in areas that are heavy on the military's presence. With so much property off the tax rolls on military bases, without federal subsidies, local governments would find it impossible to support cultural and educational extras like libraries. My wife worked for three library systems in impoverished areas in Western NC and Southwestern VA. Without that assistance, it would have been hard to get new materials, subscribe to periodicals, and to sponsor outreach efforts like book mobiles, materials taken to senior centers and nursing homes, and delivery of materials to homebound people. For those reasons, I hope you will look beyond your local library at the broader picture.
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby William Thornton » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:18 am

KeithE wrote:
William Thornton wrote:I love my public liberry and am never without a few books. Right now I have "Big Chicken" (I'm near the poultry capital of the world, Gainesville, Ga), a Stephen King book impulse item off the large'print shelf, and the nonfiction account of the Essex whaling ship. My liberry has a pretty good local and Ga history room. A new addition included a vast room with dozens of computers, no interest to me but always a bunch of patrons using them.

But I'm at a loss to understand why my local liberry shouldn't be seen as a strictly local expense.


Trump Renews Bid to Eliminate Library Funding, NEA, and NEH. This cut was rejected for the 2018 budget. I have not been able to find if this funding was eliminated or not in the Omnibus Funding Bill.

American Library Association blowback.

William Thornton wrote:...and I've never been banned.


That’s cs - a cheap shot. I for one appreciate Stephen’s article.


....from the liberry.
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby KeithE » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:48 am

William Thornton wrote:
KeithE wrote:
William Thornton wrote:I love my public liberry and am never without a few books. Right now I have "Big Chicken" (I'm near the poultry capital of the world, Gainesville, Ga), a Stephen King book impulse item off the large'print shelf, and the nonfiction account of the Essex whaling ship. My liberry has a pretty good local and Ga history room. A new addition included a vast room with dozens of computers, no interest to me but always a bunch of patrons using them.

But I'm at a loss to understand why my local liberry shouldn't be seen as a strictly local expense.


Trump Renews Bid to Eliminate Library Funding, NEA, and NEH. This cut was rejected for the 2018 budget. I have not been able to find if this funding was eliminated or not in the Omnibus Funding Bill.

American Library Association blowback.

William Thornton wrote:...and I've never been banned.


That’s cs - a cheap shot. I for one appreciate Stephen’s article.


....from the liberry.


How did you know that I’m in my library? :)
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby William Thornton » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:59 am

..clairvoyance?
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby Haruo » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:32 pm

William Thornton wrote:I love my public liberry, and am never without a few books. Right now I have "Big Chicken" (I'm near the poultry capital of the world, Gainesville, Ga), a Stephen King book impulse item off the large'print shelf, and the nonfiction account of the Essex whaling ship. My liberry has a pretty good local and Ga history room. A new addition included a vast room with dozens of computers, no interest to me but always a bunch of patrons using them.

But I'm at a loss to understand why my local liberry shouldn't be seen as a strictly local expense.

Everyone in the country benefits from the good effects of good libraries. Those good libraries that are in disadvantaged communities promote the general welfare more than those in wealthy communities do.
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby Lamar Wadsworth » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:18 pm

Speaking of libraries--if you're in GA, your library is probably in the Georgia Pines network. You can use your library card to check out books from any Pines library in the state, or you can put a hold on any book from any Pines library snd have it delivered to your local library for pickup. So, William, you can get both of my novels from www.gapines.org
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby William Thornton » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:14 pm

If Pines had a rewards program I'd have all kinds of cruises and flights. Will check on ILL for your novels.
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby Neil Heath » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:27 am

Right now Macon, Ga. is in a budget battle from a variety of causes, so they've adopted an interim budget that cut out libraries, parks and rec, and other "outside agencies". So all the branch libraries but the main one are closed, and it will be when its reserves are depleted. I think some rec facilities may stay open another month until school starts. Public bus service is greatly reduced as well. And I think indigent care at the local hospitals is gone for now.

There has been a strong public reaction.
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby Haruo » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:15 pm

Welcome to Guatemala. I'm going to try try to find out about the "variety of causes".
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby Jim » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:48 pm

William Thornton wrote:If Pines had a rewards program I'd have all kinds of cruises and flights. Will check on ILL for your novels.

Check here for a few other novels: http://www.clarkscorner.org/.
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby James » Fri Jul 20, 2018 4:46 pm

Public libraries, in most places, have a secondary impact. Friends of the Library, an adjunct to almost every public library system provides a source for cheap good books that people can keep.

I am a volunteer with the Newport News, VA friends. We are open three days a week from 10-2. We have hundreds of books on every subject and fiction in every genre but porn. No porn is our policy not the city's. It is the only regular social activity i have outside of church. I've seen the organization change the lives of the volunteers and the regulars who buy from us. We have a program where school teachers can come in pick out books for their class rooms at no cost. It is their only source for book the impoverished children can take for their own.
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby Chris » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:26 pm

William Thornton wrote:...and I've never been banned.

Just wanted you to know that this remark didnt go over my head. ;-)
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby Neil Heath » Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:26 pm

Update on Macon, GA budget woes: the libraries have been closed for several weeks now. A new millage rate has been approved at last, with budget details still to be worked out. Libraries are funded for now, and are opening one branch at a time over the next few weeks until all are in operation again. Hoping for continued full funding in the new budget, but the amounts are still pending.

They are also funding public transit for now, as it became known that there were people using it to get to their dialysis treatments who would likely die without it because they had no other way to get there.
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Re: Your Public Library matters

Postby Haruo » Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:45 pm

If we can just figure out a way to make dialysis dependent on libraries, all will be well.

I am glad to hear some progress has been made.

The whole thing reminds me a bit of Guatemala, where my niece Sarah lives, a country without a post office due to budgetary woes. Guatemala is a poster child for privatization.
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