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USF Wins Birmingham Bowl for 2nd Year

Postby JE Pettibone » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:21 pm

We where there for the 2016 win against South Carolina. This Year it was USF over Texas Tech. Lots of Baptist in those three states.

Auburn folk in Alabama better add some prayer meetings tomorrow before Auburn Meets UCF (University of Central Florida) in the Peach Bowl.
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Oklahoma St the Camping World Bowl

Postby JE Pettibone » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:49 pm

This evening David Flick's favorite Oklahoma State defeated Virginia Tech in a tight game. At The Camping World Stadium in Orlando.
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Re: Oklahoma St the Camping World Bowl

Postby David Flick » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:25 am

JE Pettibone wrote:This evening David Flick's favorite Oklahoma State defeated Virginia Tech in a tight game. At The Camping World Stadium in Orlando.

    Watched it. Great game. VT gave OSU more fight than I thought they would. The VT coach, Justin Fuente, is an Oklahoman who played at Oklahoma. He played HS ball in Tulsa and was recruited by Gundy.

    Next up for Oklahoma football fans is the Rose Bowl featuring #2 Oklahoma & (William's) #3 Georgia. I think Clemson is going to win it all.
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Re: Oklahoma St the Camping World Bowl

Postby Sandy » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:53 pm

David Flick wrote:
JE Pettibone wrote:This evening David Flick's favorite Oklahoma State defeated Virginia Tech in a tight game. At The Camping World Stadium in Orlando.

    Watched it. Great game. VT gave OSU more fight than I thought they would. The VT coach, Justin Fuente, is an Oklahoman who played at Oklahoma. He played HS ball in Tulsa and was recruited by Gundy.

    Next up for Oklahoma football fans is the Rose Bowl featuring #2 Oklahoma & (William's) #3 Georgia. I think Clemson is going to win it all.


I'm going with Oklahoma. I know that's a tough call for OSU fans, but I think they've got the horses, and they've played the tougher schedule. A lot of people don't care for Baker Mayfield's personality, but if you're that arrogant, you better be good, and he is.
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Re: Oklahoma St the Camping World Bowl

Postby David Flick » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:28 pm

Sandy wrote:
David Flick wrote:
JE Pettibone wrote:This evening David Flick's favorite Oklahoma State defeated Virginia Tech in a tight game. At The Camping World Stadium in Orlando.

    Watched it. Great game. VT gave OSU more fight than I thought they would. The VT coach, Justin Fuente, is an Oklahoman who played at Oklahoma. He played HS ball in Tulsa and was recruited by Gundy.

    Next up for Oklahoma football fans is the Rose Bowl featuring #2 Oklahoma & (William's) #3 Georgia. I think Clemson is going to win it all.


I'm going with Oklahoma. I know that's a tough call for OSU fans, but I think they've got the horses, and they've played the tougher schedule. A lot of people don't care for Baker Mayfield's personality, but if you're that arrogant, you better be good, and he is.

    Obviously you went for the wrong team. Yes, OU may have the horses but the Dawgs can whip wild horses.
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Re: USF Wins Birmingham Bowl for 2nd Year

Postby Sandy » Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:43 pm

Yeah, well, I'm not too much into this four team playoff scenario anyway. I think they should have been bold enough to buck the bowl system and go for eight teams, the champions of the power five, and three at large. And after watching OU and Georgia, I'm not convinced that either of them are really among the top four. Good on offense, but neither team had a defense.
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Re: USF Wins Birmingham Bowl for 2nd Year

Postby JE Pettibone » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:59 am

Ed: Yep! Central Central Florida, the only undefeated team of the season should have had a place in the playoffs.
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Re: USF Wins Birmingham Bowl for 2nd Year

Postby William Thornton » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:09 am

Second tier bowl but beating Auburn was good. Auburn, frankly, wasn't all that enthused about the Peach Bowl. UCF should have been in and not OK, GA, Clemson, or AL? Wisconsin, Ohio State? In an 8 team playoff, I'd put them in.
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Re: USF Wins Birmingham Bowl for 2nd Year

Postby Sandy » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:06 pm

The criticism of UCF was its conference, and not having played a tough schedule. However, they played one more ranked team than Clemson, Georgia or Alabama did, though they're not big-name teams, Memphis and USF both had better records than the teams in the ACC, SEC East and SEC West. And unlike Alabama and Georgia, UCF didn't lose to the ranked teams they played. Then they beat Auburn, which beat both Alabama and Georgia. That they did not get in was an injustice representative of the biases of the stacked selection committee. The College Game Day team has said that the legitimacy of the selection committee would be tested when a team from outside the power five ran the table with an undefeated schedule, and boosted their resume by having at least two or three quality wins over ranked teams. Initially, I think their comments were directed at Boise State, which at the time was doing that fairly frequently, but it applies to UCF. Three wins over top 25 teams, plus victories over a Big 10, SEC and ACC opponent. I think there's a better argument for them getting in than Ohio State, which won a power 5 conference, or Clemson, which only played one ranked team.
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Re: USF Wins Birmingham Bowl for 2nd Year

Postby KeithE » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:23 pm

William Thornton wrote:Second tier bowl but beating Auburn was good. Auburn, frankly, wasn't all that enthused about the Peach Bowl. UCF should have been in and not OK, GA, Clemson, or AL? Wisconsin, Ohio State? In an 8 team playoff, I'd put them in.

Agree with all of this. An 8 team playoff would be great.

Now I say AL will take it all. Score will be around 28 to 3. Michel and Chubb will be held to less than 100 yards total. Now this is trash talk.
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Re: USF Wins Birmingham Bowl for 2nd Year

Postby William Thornton » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:21 am

I wouldn't bet against AL on this game but would take the side bet that Chubb/Michel together get 100 yards rushing. Should be a good game but I'm not in the market for a $2k ticket. The new stadium is fabulous, though. Went to a soccer game there.
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Re: USF Wins Birmingham Bowl for 2nd Year

Postby Sandy » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:31 pm

I wouldn't bet against Alabama in this one, either. Oklahoma ran all over Georgia's non-existent defense, and Chubb and Michel ran up some impressive numbers because Oklahoma didn't have a defense, either. Alabama, on the other hand, does. And I'm sure that Saban and his defensive coordinator scouted and drew up a plan for Chubb and Michel when they thought they would be playing them in the SEC title game. It should be an interesting game, since the SEC's quirky 6-1-1 conference scheduling, two less games than most of the other conferences require, and a "protected rivalry" status that guarantees Georgia games with Auburn from the SEC West every year, and Alabama games with Tennessee from the SEC East every year, mean they only meet in conference play once every eight years, last time being in 2012.

I like college football enough to be interested, but don't care enough for a game set up by a stacked committee between two teams from the same conference, especially the SEC, to waste the time on actually watching it.
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Re: USF Wins Birmingham Bowl for 2nd Year

Postby JE Pettibone » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:31 pm

Sandy wrote:I wouldn't bet against Alabama in this one, either. Oklahoma ran all over Georgia's non-existent defense, and Chubb and Michel ran up some impressive numbers because Oklahoma didn't have a defense, either. Alabama, on the other hand, does. And I'm sure that Saban and his defensive coordinator scouted and drew up a plan for Chubb and Michel when they thought they would be playing them in the SEC title game. It should be an interesting game, since the SEC's quirky 6-1-1 conference scheduling, two less games than most of the other conferences require, and a "protected rivalry" status that guarantees Georgia games with Auburn from the SEC West every year, and Alabama games with Tennessee from the SEC East every year, mean they only meet in conference play once every eight years, last time being in 2012.

I like college football enough to be interested, but don't care enough for a game set up by a stacked committee between two teams from the same conference, especially the SEC, to waste the time on actually watching it.


Ed: And remember that Undefeated UCF beat Auburn which defeated both Alabama and Georgia
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Re: USF Wins Birmingham Bowl for 2nd Year

Postby KeithE » Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:51 am

JE Pettibone wrote:
Sandy wrote:I like college football enough to be interested, but don't care enough for a game set up by a stacked committee between two teams from the same conference, especially the SEC, to waste the time on actually watching it.


Ed: And remember that Undefeated UCF beat Auburn which defeated both Alabama and Georgia


Good year of NCAA Football with several surprises. Who would have predicted:

- UCF goes undefeated.

- UCF/USF have the best two records among Florida football teams. Yeah for Ed!

- First time two teams from same conference (SEC) have made it to the final game. Source.

- Big 10 bowl record is 7-1 while the SEC bowl record will be 5-6. Sandy no doubt feels validated.
Source: Bowl Records by Conference

- PAC-12 was 1-7 in the bowls. So much for my thinking that the PAC-12 has been underrated.

As for which conference is best:
Over the whole season the SEC has a win-loss differential of 34, Big 10 differential is 24. ACC is at 23, PAC-12 is at 13 and Big 12 is at 12.
Source: Final Records by Conference

But that does not adjust for strength of schedule. Sagarin Ratings does. It says the SEC- West is the best sub-conference, with ACC-Atantic a close second.
Source: Sagarin Ratings through Jan 1, 2018 scroll down to “Conference Rankings”.

I would be for an 8 team playoff.
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