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Pope Francis Called a Heretic

Postby KeithE » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:58 pm

I have not read the charges (or what provoked them), but I thought I’d start a thread on BL to hear the opinions. Not a Baptist F&M topic, but where else should this be placed?

Conservatives accuse the Pope of spreading heresy
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Re: Pope Francis Called a Heretic

Postby Tim Bonney » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:47 pm

KeithE wrote:I have not read the charges (or what provoked them), but I thought I’d start a thread on BL to hear the opinions. Not a Baptist F&M topic, but where else should this be placed?

Conservatives accuse the Pope of spreading heresy


Well, I wonder what parish in Siberia they’ll be serving when the Pope makes future clergy assignments. :lol:
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Re: Pope Francis Called a Heretic

Postby Haruo » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:30 pm

Where's what's his face, the French guy, when we need him?
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Re: Pope Francis Called a Heretic

Postby Rvaughn » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:06 pm

I'd call him a heretic, but then again, I'm Baptist! :-o

On a more serious note, Francis does seem to be moving in certain areas against a 1000 years or so of Roman Catholic dogma, so I could see why some Catholics would be upset. On the other hand, they are the ones who work themselves into a corner through believing that the Pope speaks infallibly when he speaks to questions of faith and morals.
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Re: Pope Francis Called a Heretic

Postby Rvaughn » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:29 pm

I was speaking ex cathedra in my last post (or maybe that was ex tempore).

Either way, I took a look at the link since then. Found this interesting line:
The letter does not accuse the Pope himself of being a heretic, but of supporting "heretical positions" on "marriage, the moral life and the Eucharist."

According to Dictionary.com, according to the Roman Catholic Church a heretic is "a baptized Roman Catholic who willfully and persistently rejects any article of faith." (Not sure how accurate that is.)
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Re: Pope Francis Called a Heretic

Postby Sandy » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:20 pm

I'm not familiar enough with Catholic doctrine, or the nuances of papal infallibility to comment on whether the pope, by those standards, is a heretic, or is promoting heretical teaching. I have a friend with whom I've served on a couple of accreditation teams who is a priest, and his perspective is that the more reform Pope Francis can get on the table, and the faster he can get it there, the better.
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Re: Pope Francis Called a Heretic

Postby Tim Bonney » Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:18 pm

As said above, I’m not a Roman Catholic so I can’t judge what they consider heresy or not. But everyone is someone else’s heretic if judged against our own standards. :wink:
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Re: Pope Francis Called a Heretic

Postby Haruo » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:24 am

I gather most of the people behind this letter have already left the fold. Which puts them in the same league as Lefebvre or whoever that French guy I alluded to was.
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