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Radical Origins of Christianity

Postby Stephen Fox » Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:36 pm

Here is one we can discuss for the rest of the summer. No need for David Flick to take a shot as he will probably be as confused by this as he is about climate change.

Then again it hasn't stopped him before.

Would love Thornton, Haruo and Sandy's take in particular though all are welcome, excepting Flick, at the table

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/ ... ristianity

I think most of us could agree there is no Christianity, not much of one as a major world religion without Paul.

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Re: Radical Origins of Christianity

Postby Sandy » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:24 pm

While I read the New Yorker's review, with the understanding of their perspective when it comes to reviewing books such as this, I'll have to reserve comment until I actually read the book. I was looking for a good summer read, and this actually looks pretty good. I took your advice, Stephen, on Molly Worthen's Apostles of Reason, and enjoyed reading that, though not finding complete agreement with her thesis. This one looks like the kind of book I'd like to give to the 12th grade Bible class to read and discuss. In this environment, that can be dangerous, but I've seen a few senior classes come through here who could handle it, and discuss it intelligently, and without personal bias.
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Re: Radical Origins of Christianity

Postby David Flick » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:31 am

Stephen Fox wrote:Here is one we can discuss for the rest of the summer. No need for David Flick to take a shot as he will probably be as confused by this as he is about climate change.

    Sorry, Fox, but you're the one who's confused about climate change. :lol:
Then again it hasn't stopped him before.

Would love Thornton, Haruo and Sandy's take in particular though all are welcome, excepting Flick, at the table

    Not to worry, I'll not interfere with your table talk...

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/ ... ristianity

I think most of us could agree there is no Christianity, not much of one as a major world religion without Paul.

I am proud far as I know. to be the only participant on this board who has spoken in the flesh to reviewer James Wood, and likely the only person who will partake in this conversation to have read his Broken Estate and the Fun STuff. Momma is proud of her boy on those two counts.
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Re: Radical Origins of Christianity

Postby Sandy » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:05 pm

Stephen Fox wrote:Would love Thornton, Haruo and Sandy's take in particular though all are welcome, excepting Flick, at the table.


I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't be welcome in a discussion such as this, regardless of their perspective on global warming, or politics. A perspective or viewpoint is simply that. Flick has a very reasonable theological perspective, even if he is way off the mark on climate change :wink: .
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Flick's rationale

Postby Stephen Fox » Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:31 pm

My experience with Flick is not very rational. Thornton and Dave Roberts, Lamar Wadsworth and Bruce Gourley are more rational than Flick.
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Re: Flick's rationale

Postby Jim » Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:48 pm

Stephen Fox wrote:My experience with Flick is not very rational. Thornton and Dave Roberts, Lamar Wadsworth and Bruce Gourley are more rational than Flick.


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Re: Flick's rationale

Postby David Flick » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:34 pm

Stephen Fox wrote:My experience with Flick is not very rational. Thornton and Dave Roberts, Lamar Wadsworth and Bruce Gourley are more rational than Flick.

      Jim wrote:Old Foxy is an intellectual
      Although his rants are ineffectual,
      Some Forum-folks to him inferior,
      Not seeing that his thoughts superior;
      He is the Oracle of Collinsville,
      The One at Delphi underneath his skill,
      Suffice to say that it is broad daylight
      If Foxy says it happens to be night!

        You nailed it, Jim. With excellent humor, I might add.
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Re: Radical Origins of Christianity

Postby Tim Bonney » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:07 am

“An atheist believes that God does not exist. A believer knows that God exists. One has an opinion, the other knowledge.”
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Re: Radical Origins of Christianity

Postby Tim Bonney » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:10 am

I feels to me like the author doesn't give enough credit to the gospel writers. His contention that we know more about Paul than Jesus seems a bit off.
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Re: Radical Origins of Christianity

Postby Dave Roberts » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:50 am

Tim Bonney wrote:I feels to me like the author doesn't give enough credit to the gospel writers. His contention that we know more about Paul than Jesus seems a bit off.


I think that referring to church members, we may know more about Paul because Jesus makes us more uncomfortable and convicts us of the sins we don't want to confess.
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Re: Radical Origins of Christianity

Postby Tim Bonney » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:24 pm

Dave Roberts wrote:
I think that referring to church members, we may know more about Paul because Jesus makes us more uncomfortable and convicts us of the sins we don't want to confess.


Now that makes sense.
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