Question About Lordship Salvation

[Jason Wolfe]

Hello, I have a question about Lordship Salvation. gotquestions.org says, "Lordship Salvation emphasizes that submitting to Christ as Lord over your life goes hand-in-hand with trusting Christ to be saved. It also focuses on a changed life as the result of salvation. Those who believe in Lordship Salvation would have serious doubts about a person who claims to believe in Christ but does not have good works evident in his life." http://www.gotquestions.org/lordship-salvation.html

So, my question for those who believe in Lordship Salvation is: do I have to believe that, or can I just do it? In other words, do I have to believe in Lordship Salvation to be saved, or can I just live the way LS says you have to live in order to be saved, to be saved? Does that make sense? You see, I'm puzzled, because Lordship Salvation doesn't seem to emphasize that you have to actually believe in it, it just says you have to do certain things. So, let's say, I just believe you have to believe on Jesus Christ to be saved, and I don't think you have to repent of your sins, or do good works, or anything else to be saved, okay? So, I DON'T believe in Lordship Salvation, BUT let's also say that I happen to stop making a habit of sinning and have a life of good works and I persevere in the faith until I die, okay? So I don't actually believe in LS, but I believe in Jesus Christ for salvation, and I happen to meet the other requirements in so far as how I lived, am I saved according to LS, or not? If not, why not, and do you think that Lordship Salvationists should maybe emphasize that a bit more if it's essential for salvation? I hope my question makes sense. I appreciate whatever input you have. Thank you.

[Dave Roberts]

Jason, I can't help you on this one. Never heard that term used before.

[Ed Pettibone]

Ed: First off Jason, in 60 years of being a christian this is the first time I have heard the term Lordship salvation, and don't know that I know any thing about whatever group that operates that web site. Secondly, they are responsible to God, not to me. Thirdly, I do believe the Bible instructs us to "repent" & "be saved", In that order. And I believe that when one repents and is saved the Holy Spirit will inspire them to good works and righteous living.

[KeithE]

[Ed Pettibone]

Ed: There is a great deal for discussion in the wiki item to which Keith has linked, I hope some one will start a new thread From which that item can be "Cleaned up". To day My hand is giving me enough problem I need to take some pain medication and try to get some sleep. I will put A reminder on my phone to check back in. And Keith thanks for both your explanation thus far and for the link. I really think we at BL.c Could make significant contributions toward a resolution among thinking people of the conflicts described. Other will bicker about it till Jesus comes back and settles it.

[Tim Bonney]

The above criticism of evangelicalism, particularly if it is strongly Calvinist, has some validity in that if you believe you are one of the "elect" then there isn't much call for Discipleship. It seems odd to me though for MacArther to invent this whole new terminology for what is basically a discussion about discipleship.

[KeithE]

[Jason Wolfe]

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