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Prevenient grace offered to all is no doubt absolutely necessary and any inkling/leading to accept that grace comes from God. On that we agree.

But a good Wesleyan also says that grace is not “irresistible”. We must accept it and (I believe) act upon it to be saved from our sin.

Thus it is not “solo gratis”; we have to not resist also.

As disciple-makers of people we certainly act as if they must at least “profess” a faith; we are not generally fatalistic in these matters.

Never mind me if this word dance is too touchy to your theology (which isn’t that important anyway).

Keith, I never said, "solo gratis." Nor did Wesley. Those were your words. That may be where you are having a problem. There is not anything "solo." It isn't solo fide or solo scriptura or solo gratis. We are on a journey with God. Methodists like the word "sufficient." Probably it was the word "entirely" that was the problem. But Methodists want you to be sure God did the saving, not you.

Also remember for Methodists, we aren't saved (past tense) we believe we are always being saved.

I always appreciate my lib friends telling me and other inerrantists what we can and can't do with Scripture...but, nice try.

The magisterial Keith with a little dig from Dave...not you.

It's ok I know the ropes around here. Just for fun, I'd take my admin privileges and log on as one of you guys and write accordingly. I think I could do it...