Liberty U Gone Berserk

[Jon Estes]

WOW -

The idiocy of the adjunct at LUO. Y'all can do better than this. Maybe those here without a PhD really have nothing to oofer in the conversation (specific to the subject being discussed).

Who here has a PhD and in what?

It also is being shown the lack of knowledge of the Adjunct program at LUO. It's easy to speak down of others when you know little about what really is required of LUO's adjuncts.

I guess it works since Liberty is an evil school (in the mind of the left) and is out to destroy churches and people and students through their educational system and miinistry placement office.



signed: LUO Adjunct Jon L. Estes

[KeithE]

What do you teach, Aon ?

[Jon Estes]

[Dave Roberts]

Jon, I am very aware of the plusses and minuses of the adjunct system. My wife worked for over 10 years in the VA Community College System in both administration and as an adjunct. The quality of courses depends on the commitment of the adjunct and the willingness to interact regularly with the students. The reality is that many institutions now load adjuncts with an impossible course load to keep the cost down. For most adjuncts, the amount of money earned is not in proportion to the levels of responsibility. We address LU because of its sheer size in the off-campus education work, but it is not alone. The whole arena is evolving, and I have seen in graduates of institutions for divinity training that did all their work online, a general lack of collaborative skills and people concerns necessary to work in churches. How would you feel if your surgeon was trained online? Your lawyer?

[Sandy]

I don't have a Ph.D, but I do have two masters' degrees, and have taught as an adjunct. The schools I've taught for had pretty high standards, in terms of course objectives and expected student outcomes. The level of monitoring and supervision was high, and there wasn't much "wiggle room" when it came to course content. The syllabus and lesson plan outlines for each session had to be complete before the dean approved the course to be offered.

I see online courses as a means of delivering coursework that helps fill in gaps in places where it is more practical, but as far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on how effective it is when it comes to full degree programs. I've interviewed a few candidates for teaching positions who had online degrees, and while that is anecdotal, there was a clear difference in interview skills, and in content area knowledge and skill. None of the applicants with an online degree made a second interview. Of course, in this area, right now we are blessed with an abundance of experienced teachers in most subject areas, and that means that whenever I have an opening, I also have a pretty steady stream of applicants from some high quality schools, including some excellent Christian colleges and universities. I'm currently supervising a cohort, a little different than teaching as an adjunct. I don't think I'd enjoy teaching an online course.

[Tim Bonney]

[Haruo]

Education in general is undervalued as a calling. Look at what is paid to elementary school teachers first of all.

[Tim Bonney]

[Haruo]

And now that I'm retired and can theoretically afford both the time and the tuition to go back and complete my own long-stalled climb to the PhD, I've decided not to bother. I'm just not that interested in Albanian literature anymore. If I could find a university that would let me earn an interdisciplinary online PhD in Esperanto studies and hymnology, I'd serious consider it. But so far I'm drawing a blank on Google.

[KeithE]

[Tim Bonney]

I think Morningside's rule is that an adjunct without a PhD can teach 100 and 200 level courses.

One of the reasons I was teaching Christian Ethics is that the school has a history of wanting to recruit someone with pastoral experience to teach the class believing the practical experience enhances the academic experience.

[Sandy]

[Tim Bonney]

[Jon Estes]

[Jon Estes]

[Jon Estes]

[JE Pettibone]

https://www.searchencrypt.com/search?eq ... Y4NH25m9J1

Perhaps this will add some what to the discussion of adjuncts.

[Haruo]

That link has already expired, Ed. You need to link to the actual item, not to your search results.

[Tim Bonney]

[Jon Estes]

[JE Pettibone]

[Haruo]

[Tim Bonney]

[James]

I just read several recent threads addressing several aspects of the differences between white evangelicalism and everybody else. The thought came to me that the ethics of any branch of Christianity should give due diligence to one principle of ethics which is repeated more times (52) than any other. It usually goes something like this, "and remember to be kind to widows, orphans and the stranger/alien who walks among you." That is social ethics in a nutshell.