"Jesus Would Not Approve Of Abortions" President Carter

[davidRudnick]

Please do not give up on the Democratic Party... without the Democrats there would be no Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, a minimum wage, child labor laws, or a living wage. If you really want to overturn Roe v. Wade (approved by Republican Nixon & upheld by Ford & Reagan) it will be the Democratic Party to do it...
Please support President Jimmy Carter by signing the petition below which calls for the Democratic Party to accept Pro Life Democrats back into the Party. It will be submitted by Carter to the DNC Chair. A little under half of all Democrats are Pro Life and it is time that we are recognized...

Please support President Jimmy Carter and other Democrats who do not support abortion in signing this pledge to help protect life and the future of our nation...

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/bigtent/

[Haruo]

I signed it.

Incidentally, welcome!

[Haruo]

[Tim Bonney]

I can't sign it. There are circumstances in which an abortion is an unavoidable medical decision. I don't want to have Democrats take away the rights of women to make decisions about their own bodies and their own health. There is nothing like a bunch of men signing a petition to have the Democratic party tell the government to tell women what to do with their own health and life.

[davidRudnick]

if the child endangers the life of the mother then I understand the need for an abortion but, most women have abortions for economic issues... that I cannot abide by

[davidRudnick]

[Tim Bonney]

[Haruo]

I am in favor of the big tent, not of banning abortion. I believe the parties (both of them) work better when they nurture internal diversity of opinion on a wide variety of issues. I don't see where the petition calls for banning abortion. I do not value polarization, litmus tests, or Democratic Centralism.

[Ed Pettibone]

Ed: Not being a democrat I have no business signing this petition, plus I agree with each of the points presented by Tim Bonney.

On top of that I do not sign any petition that does not clearly state who the sponsor is.

And David R. it would be nice if you stopped by the welcome forum and tell us a bit about yourself.

[Tim Bonney]

[davidRudnick]

will do. But the Sponsor is Democrats for Life of America. Its essentially Democrats who do not support Abortion asides if the child endangers the life of the mother. Many in the org are also opposed to the wars as well. But its main focus is removing a litmus test for Democratic Party regarding abortion... as many Pro Life Dems are treated as outsiders or pushed out of the Party over the issue

[Gene Scarborough]

What troubles me most about the Abortion fight is how it tends to be portrayed as if "babies are killed" who are viable in the 3rd trimester. It is an ugly thing which few Doctors would consider performing unless there were no viable child ready to be born and able to live outside the womb.

Whenever any argument goes to the extreme, it is not a good argument.

This country, before Roe v. Wade, was a horror land of brutality to pregnant women. Too many died or were left sterile with the butchering and lack of sterility. My own father, in the 40's, was asked to minister to a girl with a botched abortion at a "Roadhouse" outside Tryon, NC. By getting her to a hospital he helped save her life. Then the little "gossip ladies" started spreading the word that the Preacher was at the "whorehouse" (to put it bluntly).

This scene does not need repeating in a free country with modern medicine available to all women.

Tim is so right about the way men want to make the rules and women bear the pain = not acceptable for me!

[Stephen Fox]

Bill Self and Jack Harwell's great Presbyterian friend Frank Harrington of Atlanta said: "The Weight of Protestant Theology comes down on the side of the Mother."

I doubt President Carter or Jane Fonda--legend has it Johnny Hunt baptized her-- would vote Harrington out of the Christian faith in Georgia, nor would Carter have dismissed Paul Simmons from Southern Seminary.

Folks like Rudnick refuse to read Gushee, and Gormley's Parsing the Politics of Abortion on the Matter.

Aaron Weaver and the like have bounced this around agood bit onthis board. Jill Lepore in New Yorker is another goood source I doubt Rudnick will engage.

[Stephen Fox]

The John Carroll Branch

http://www.religiondispatches.org/archi ... n%27s_dna/