Osama bin Laden

[KeithE]

[Gene Scarborough]

Thanks, Keith!!!

Same approach taken by Lyndon Johnson as he appointed Earl Warren the head of the investigation. Warren was an arch enemy of Kennedy. Many people who gave their deposition included in the Warren Commission Report did not recognize what they had submitted vs. what was put into writing in a massive several volumn opus.

The massive nature of the Report was, in itself, a deterrent to anyone being able to decipher it. Initially it had no Index so you could go quickly to certain parts. Everything about it was another attempt to hide details which should have led to a more clear picture.

What you cite--and what I just have cited--is further evidence an "investigation" can be another term for "further cover-up."

The Space Shuttle and other space-related investigations uncovered many violations of safety procedures as well as a lax attitude about Astronaut safety. They just got careless and a few people died.

In the case of 9/11 many people died--and the George Bush Administration--by Executive Order--in its first term DOUBLED the Statute of Limitation on any event deemed a National Security Matter. This was applied to events from the Reagan Administration forward----so what do they have to cover with this doubling of time??????

[Tim Bonney]

[Ed Pettibone]

[Tim Bonney]

[Gene Scarborough]

So, gentlemen---now that I offered a psychological explaination for people gravitating to conspiracy theories---Do you have something more insightful to offer????

[Tim Bonney]

[Gene Scarborough]

Quite to the contrary, Timothy---a real part of the OBL discussion is the place of conspiracy possibly in the fact his men succeeded in bringing down the Twin Towers / Pentagon / thwarted possible crash into the White House.

I see no real point in starting another topic when this one is covering many aspects of the story and its aftermath.

[Tim Bonney]

[KeithE]

[Gene Scarborough]

Keith--

That is as complete a list as I have ever seen. About 80% of the things listed are critical for answer in my view. As with all National Security matters we now have double the time to wait than we still do with the death of JFK. In the meantime, thanks to the Discovery Channel / History / BBC / etc. we will see people who have more time than us whose curiosity has motivated them strongly enough to come up with some answers. Some have gone broke seeking those answers in the same sacrificial way Jesus gave his life for us at the hands of evil religious leaders getting rich off more traditional fears and guilt.

At present, I am convinced George Bush knew far more than he has admitted / was glad to have an excuse for an expensive war / his decisions have led us to the brink of financial collapse in this country. The most interesting fact I have seen of late is that our bases established in this occupation EXACTLY follow a proposed pipeline for Oil going to the coast of Afghanistan. That plan has been on the books for many years.

[KeithE]

[Gene Scarborough]

Give it more time, buddy---the truth always comes out sooner or later!

There is enough of it already about the proposed pipeline continuing through Afghanistan to the coast. That is why we are continuing the US presence now extended further to the West until we are now "coastal."

I have watched a lot of the WTC analysis and there is one I have seen which contends for "more demolition than can be accounted for by 2 planes." It think we will see more in the future---some following the Government line and more in the future which question it.

There has be one on JFK which contends it was possible for one bullet to hit both Kennedy and Connely BUT their analysis showed NOTHING of how a pristin bullet from the Oswald rifle mysteriously was found on a gurney occupied by Connelly. That one still lacks credibility to me as I watch things analysed anew from 1963.

[Jim]

The dear leader said in Britain that he and NATO are busy saving lives in Libya and made it plain, along with the British prime minister, that regime change is the goal. This is a precise 180 degrees from what he said in March but UN resolutions to do one thing mean, of course, that they mandate doing whatever anyone says is necessary to “saving lives.” My take: .

The dear leader is partying in France today and then it’s on eastward, but not to Syria and Yemen and Bahrain and Kuwait – all in line for the Friday-prayer demonstrations that he’s been encouraging, with blood in the Streets (40 dead in Yemen today). He’s never understood that community organizing and consequent protests in this country are handled with arrests and such like, while in the Middle East they’re handled at the point of the gun. After trying to shoot down Israel, he’s now trying to remake Libya and anywhere else that he thinks needs his gentle touch. I listened in its entirety to the Netanyahu speech before Congress, with its 25-30 standing ovations, eloquence and no teleprompter. When Obama was six, Netanyahu was in the Israeli army fighting and winning the six-day war, in which the 1967 boundaries were changed and Obama wants nullified now (after Israel standing off the Palestinians in four wars by 1967). When Obama was twelve, Netanyahu nearly died as a captain in the Yom Kippur war. Maybe that’s the difference.

[Gene Scarborough]

Jim---

No matter what the man does, you are not happy. So is the problem with the man or with you and your Conservative Republican / Tea Party cohorts???

You act as if fluid situations of volitile national changes in the Middle East require a consistent approach. With that kind of thinking, were you in WW!, you would be marching in lines and units right into the face of a machine gun mowing you down by the busloads. Changing situtuations require fluid actions to accomodate the new things. Rubber streatches over rock and wins. Paper covers rock--and wins. Rock against rock produces rubble!!!! Thinkaboudit!

I decry the massive expenditures of very expensive weapons of war against such men as Kadafi. Even you must admit he has been a tyrant and despot for many a moon in LIbya. Strangely, all the regimes backed by Reagan / Bush I / Bush II are the ones the citizens hate and are trying to depose. How do you explain such as you non-stop criticize Obama???

[KeithE]

Just wanted to bring this to the forefront as there continues to be high viewership of this thread since the last post on May 26. There were 956 views as of May 26 at 10:30 pm and there are now 1065 views on July 3. Sorry if this offends.

[Gene Scarborough]

Keith---

This is the "all-consuming" obsession in our country since 9/11/02 = what did George Bush et al know / how much money has been spent overseas when the economy is in a shambles / how many brave and dedicated soldiers have been killed / how much does Big Oil have to do with why we are really there??????

It is far from over / our troops and camps are along a proposed pipeline put on the map years ago / like it or not "Obama got Ossama" and that could well be the difference in his being re-elected.

Meanwhile, back on the farm things aren't so good at all. Big Oil is getting rich / joblessness is rediculous / industries related to war-making are booming / Blackwater and Dick Cheney are more than well off / "national security" keeps us from finding out much for the next 40 years with the George Bush Executive Order to DOUBLE THE TIME LIMIT on anything designated "national security."

Rampant INFLATION is just around the corner as we spend $10 for every $1 taken in from us working people while the rich and corporations are paying virtually $0 of the tax bill each year.

DOES ANYONE HAVE THE GUTS TO PUT TERM LIMITS on the next ballot and give us a chance to clean up Congress every few years????

[Jim]

The latest “truther” organization is something called the Questionable Affairs Department for Discovering Avaricious Fuel Invaders, known by its acronym, for short, QADDAFI. This organization claims that Obama, Biden, British Petroleum and its Middle East tyrant-connection, Ahmadinejad, met secretly in a New York mosque to plan the March 19 attack on Libya in order to guarantee that its oil operations either be shut down or simply overrun with a view toward directing its shipments to London or San Francisco, where strange things happen as a matter of course and no one would be suspicious of oil tankers from Libya with blood-stained decks tying up at Fisherman’s Wharf.

Such notables as former general Wesley Clark head QADDAFI and they’ve already discovered that the Gulf oil spill last year was also planned by O,B, BP and A, who have captured most of the millions of gallons and have them stored in a huge underground cave in the Pacific island-nation of Tuvalu, elevation 15 feet and therefore susceptible to quick ingress and egress of product, which can be used at any time to flood the market and bankrupt selected nations or simply stack euros and dollars in banks in the Cayman Islands, Bahamas, or Switzerland, where partners-in-crime Bush, Cheney, Halliburton and Osama (RIP) stashed all the Saudi money they received account of 9/11 action.

[Gene Scarborough]

And your source, Jim????

Sounds more outlandish by far than Oswald killing JFK all by himself!!!!!

[KeithE]

[Jim]

[Gene Scarborough]

Enjoying the 4th too much to do your bidding!!!!

Also the lunacy is entertaining enough by itself!!

[Dave Roberts]

Today's posts here were definitely entertaining.

[KeithE]

Yesterday Bob Graham reiterates
a fact that the US has covered-up.

This is not really new since most is in his book . But it is an example what a real journalism team would dig into.

Don't know where all this leads, but Peter Falk has died. We need a new Columbo. Perhaps Bob Graham.

[Gene Scarborough]