Global Warming Thread XIII

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[Jim]

This is perhaps the most dishonest and misleading paragraph of all: “Some islands affected by climate change have been hit,” said Nilsson. “Has not the time come to demonstrate on solidarity — not least solidarity in combating and adapting to climate change and global warming?”

The island-nation of Tuvalu is made up of atolls with a maximum elevation of 16.5 feet (though not known if with tide in or out). To my knowledge, there has been no change account of global warming/cooling. A tsunami could hurt this country but not because of manmade global warming, nonexistent anyway.

[Ed Edwards]

TomBorelli

http://www.desmogblog.com/tom-borelli-h ... -end-world

// ... Borelli is gathering up oil money to finance
an attack on any corporation that promotes responsible
action on climate change. \\

Contrast to:

http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/11/some- ... z1GSWdPfy9

// “Global warming alarmists will exploit any natural disaster
to promote their anti-fossil fuel agenda,” Tom Borelli of
the Free Enterprise Project told The Daily Caller, adding
that the climate change reaction is a result of
the “global warming spin machine.”

// “First it’s global warming, then it’s climate change, now it’s probably
tectonic instability — no doubt all caused by man,” he said. \\

Oh nice, Tom Borelli doing what Tom Borelli does
Tee Hee, in the 1990s Tom Borelli was the lead scientist at Phillip Morris, Inc.

[David Flick]

.
.Through the years, various prominent prophets of alarm have been strikingly off the mark. Thirty-five years ago (June 11, 1986), James Hansen predicted that in the next decade. Not only did temperatures not increase by that amount, in the second decade following his prediction, .

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[Ed Edwards]

David: // Flick: How, pray tell, does being a lead scientist at Philip Morris discredit Borelli's point?? \\

Your praqers have been answered Borelli is a piper. I think he piped ciggie denial stuff in the 1990s.
I think he pipes AGW denial stuff in the 2010s. Borelli's tunes are dictated now by Big Oil. You know, Big
Oil, the biggest business in Oklahoma; the guys who own at least one of Oklahoma's Senators. You know,
the companies that the advertizing department practices soil conservation but Operations does NOT
PRACTICE SOIL CONSERVATION. Anyway, Soil Conservation means nothing wilthout Water Conservation and
Air Conservation. It takes all three to make food: Soil, Water, and Air.

Recall I have live 93%* of my life between (or within 25 miles of) a Canadian River - all oil country.
Unfortunately it is Oklahoma Sour Crude oil and not the benchmark: Texas Sweet Crude oil.

* only exception was 4 years in the Military

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[Jim]

Those three quotes say it all. I’m still laughing.

Her name was Global Warming,
She ruled all mindless men
Who at her feet were swarming
From every mount and fen.

His name was Planet Cooling,
He ruled the minds of science
Who thought he was not fooling –
Bought coal in grim reliance.

Then Cooling met sweet Warming –
They fell in love, of course,
Their marriage often storming
In ups and downs of force.

They named their child God’s Climate –
He ruled the world apace
With heat and cold sublimate
For all the human race.

God’s Climate, just adjusting
When heat or cold prevailed,
Kept everything from busting…
In averages he dwelled!

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[Jim]

[Ed Edwards]

Sorry David, I play my Senior Citizen [60+] Card and get to talk about myself irrgardless of the topic I am in.

Let me say this:
I do not get even 1¢ from anybody else for discussing AGW (human caused Global Warming).
All I get is the enjoyment of "showing up" people who have abandoned reason thinking that their understanding of the Bible is correct; people who think in Black & White overlooking a universe with endless shades of grey and all kinds of neat colors; people confusing the TRUTH (a person: Jesus) with the truth (things that are correct); people confusing both the TRUTH and the truth with thier own opinion of what the Bible means
Caveat: The probability of the following is high:
not all of these errors are made by any one person on this board, but all these errors are made by somebody on this board.

[Ed Edwards]

And here is what a world dying without Messiah Jesus is saying about religion:

I do not need metaphors;
I need answers.

I do not need parables;
I need answers.

I do not need platitudes;
I need answers.

And i wonder if the average minister* even knows the best questions to which:




*'minister = person who ministers to others

[Ed Edwards]

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm? ... b7138a7c3f

That is where I found "Australian paleoclimate scientist Dr. Bob Carter" mentioned.
Right on Senator Inhofe's (R.OK) US Senate Committee.
This is called the BIRD OF THE FEATHER logical argument

[KeithE]

I'm a 5-Point AGWer (SUGAR)

Sea Level Rise
UAH satellite-based air temp trend
GISS ground-based air temp trend
Acidity/heat content increases in Oceans
Radiation trapped by CO2 emission increases

[David Flick]

[Ed Edwards]

Which is fine Keith

1 Corinthians 12:31b (Geneva Bible, 1599 Edition, e-sword.com edition):

...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... nd-of-rain

// The tropical rain band that wraps the globe north of the equator migrates as atmospheric temperature changes, altering rainfall patterns worldwide \
\

// Multiyear drought conditions in the southwestern U.S. could persist as that area becomes more like the semiarid region of northern Mexico. \\

or to add to Keith's List:

6. ITCZ = Intertropical Convergence Zone - headed North

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[David Flick]

[Jim]

I’m glad all this has come out before our hopeless Senate has a chance to do what the equally hopeless House democrats did long ago, pass the cap/trade fiasco of a bill with not one legislator having read it. It’s designed to make entrepreneurship impossible in this country, a huge step toward socialism, the primary aim of this equally hopeless administration. By attacking a tiny nation, population-wise, that poses absolutely no threat to this nation, the prez has managed to turn attention away from his primary agenda, whether or not he meant to. He probably wouldn’t know, one way or the other, having exhibited an unbelievable lack of knowledge relative to world affairs…or most anything else.